Re: Mind's Eye Re: thought experiments

I know it is very slick what they are doing,,  transferring brain functions  i will have to do some research  but that always takes a lot of time  but the seed has been planted
Allan

maybe it is called boredom

On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Don Johnson <dajohn@gmail.com> wrote:
The human brain is an amazingly adaptable organ Allan. I read something years ago about folks that had something behind their eye severed that caused them to see everything upside down. Initially, of course, this was quite a challenge but within a few days they were completely back to normal. In other research robotic limbs respond to hip, back and/or shoulder muscles to reach and step. The research is pretty incredible. Pretty soon they're just thinking reach and step and whatever muscles they use to do that respond. 

dj


On Saturday, September 22, 2012 2:43:52 AM UTC-5, Allan Heretic wrote:

Thank you  Don Why my epilepsy they are not sure,, and I have good medical insurance so my  care is paid for,,  that is no problem..
Due to test (a lot of them even have pictures to prove alien abduction,) it showed that there is an area that does not function normally and it is right in the language center of the brain..
I don't suffer that much other than poor spelling  and and sentences with word left out.. (i really don't realize I have drop them) .
Now Neil's post triggered the thought that many be it would be possible to stimulate a different section of the brain to perform the language function in a normal manner..
What a day deam.
Allan

On Sep 22, 2012 8:15 AM, "Don Johnson" <daj...@gmail.com> wrote:
No Allan I do not think you are required to suffer. Not because of anyone's greed or for any other reason. However, this doesn't disqualify you from suffering. It is a human condition. I would say an animal condition. Root causes of one's suffering are varied and often out of our personal control. These are unfortunate and also, I regret, unavoidable. I sincerely wish you well in your current predicament and hope you have a speedy recovery and are soon back to doing all the things you enjoy that you must currently limit. 

I wasn't speaking of Healthcare specifically but I do think, as you know, that it is a service that should be paid for. I also believe having companies buy health insurance in blocks for their employees is a very bad idea and is ruining good health care service. It would be much, much better to provide vouchers and let the employees buy the insurance that best suits their needs. The competition this would garner in the industry would improve service and lower costs. Yes, I know. I am a genius. 

If I am distorting it is an accident. I was trying for a metaphor, or more precisely a synecdoche. As stated earlier, I was a poor English student. To my credit I am trying. 

dj

On Friday, September 21, 2012 3:00:58 AM UTC-5, Allan Heretic wrote:
I think you are distorting an idea and the effects Don,  every one is entitled to health care.  If my employer is unwilling to provide it because he can not make as much money if he does..  I suffer because if his greed..  am I required to suffer because of the greed of other men?
Allan

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 6:33 AM, Don Johnson <daj...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, September 20, 2012 8:25:16 PM UTC-5, rigsy03 wrote:
It is also the joy of work- accomplishment, etc. rather than
competing- maybe you are testing your own skills or mastering your
abilities to repair something, create something.
 
One can certainly enjoy sprucing up one's home or automobile or garden and keep one self busy making sure our home appliances and robots are in good working order. We have plenty of practice so we get quite good at these chores that help ourselves and our families. But our neighbor prefers to play video games and watch cooking shows on tv instead of being industrious. Well that won't work because we are all "entitled" to the same things, correct? So maybe I should go to my neighbor's house and work on his robots and appliances and prune his trees and cut his grass for him. This will, of course, require me to work much harder and the chores around my living space will suffer for it but that's ok because we all deserve the same benefits don't we?
 
Maybe not.
 
dj
 

On Sep 20, 12:03 am, Don Johnson <daj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Reminds me of the Fritz Lang classic Metropolis. Who's going to build and
> repair and innovate the robots? Other robots? Haven't you seen "I, Robot"
> or "Terminator?" There will always be greener grass somewhere and people
> will "compete" to occupy it. If it's not Financially perhaps we will have
> gladiatorial competitions to weed out the weak. Maybe we'll play chess for
> favors. Maybe we'll keep building robots to fight for us and play chess for
> us, I dunno. But we will always compete for what we want and we will always
> WANT what we don't HAVE. Doesn't matter if we already have everything maybe
> I want HER. Or HIM. Or that PARTICULAR view from that SPECIFIC condo or
> whatever. I'm no sociologist but I'm pretty sure the compitition gene is
> hardwired in the best of us and if we lose it we are doomed. I mean extinct
> doomed.
>
> dj
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:56:36 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:
> > Thought experiments are devices of the imagination used to investigate
> > the nature of things. Thought experimenting often takes place when the
> > method of variation is employed in entertaining imaginative
> > suppositions. They are used for diverse reasons in a variety of areas,
> > including economics, history, mathematics, philosophy, and physics.
> > Most often thought experiments are communicated in narrative form,
> > sometimes through media like a diagram. Thought experiments should be
> > distinguished from thinking about experiments, from merely imagining
> > any experiments to be conducted outside the imagination, and from
> > psychological experiments with thoughts. They should also be
> > distinguished from counterfactual reasoning in general, as they seem
> > to require an experimental element.
> >http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/thought-experiment/
>
> > One I like is the notion of robot heaven.  It's easy enough to imagine
> > a time when machines grow our food, build our shelter and do our
> > work.  The interesting stuff comes in thinking what this would mean
> > for wealth distribution and the nature of society.  What work would be
> > left to do?  One can also wonder what place any of our work ethics
> > would have in such a society.  There may be some deconstructive effect
> > on just what current work ideologies are in place for.
>
> > One of the great improvements technology brought to my life is more or
> > less never having to go into a bank.  The only real innovations in
> > banking are the ATM and electronic banking.  This kind of technology
> > and similar in agriculture and industry fundamentally reduce the
> > amount of human effort to grow and make what we need.  We are in
> > partial state of robot heaven.
>
> > Our ideologies are not up to speed.  Real unemployment is massive and
> > education does little to provide job skills.  We are sold life-styles
> > and products by insane advertising.  Job creation seems to be in
> > perverse areas like financial services or bringing back attended gas-
> > pumps.  With more efficient production we should be able to afford a
> > bigger social sector and I can't for the life of me understand why we
> > allow competition through crap wages and conditions.
>
> > A great deal of what we pay for could be available more or less free.
> > Educational content and utility banking are examples - these are areas
> > that could be ratinalised like agriculture and manufacturing.
> > Millions of jobs would go.  We should be asking why jobs are so
> > central to out thinking on wealth distribution and how we might
> > encourage work without the rat race.- Hide quoted text -
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