Re: Mind's Eye turning the world Greek

Maybe a possible beginning to change lies in a general societal shift in the way we see wealth and those who amass it. Rather than according them adulation, we should perhaps work on spreading the view that such people are necessarily morally deficient in some way. People in the possession of millions must have achieved this at the cost of the suffering of others - if not legally, then morally.

This kind of attitude would then regard all those who work in banking and the so-called "financial services" with a mixture of pity and distain; people doing a distasteful job which, unfortunately, may be necessary given the way we run things - a bit like the way we would think about people who clean sewers; something someone has to do, perhaps, but nothing that anyone decent would want to do.

The good opinion of one's fellows is a major aspect of our societal relations. To stop envying and praising the rich and instead begin pitying and despising them might be a start.

On 4 September 2012 04:22, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:

The problem is the business as usual solutions don't and can't work.
We hear stuff like bringing jobs back - but technology has changed so
much that what might once ave created 3000 jobs is now a factory run
by 100 people minding clever machines.  We have been sending over half
our kids to university for a long time now - even China has a big
problem with low paid white collar workers with degrees (called the
Ant People).  The investment in education still seems sound to most,
but it's not and is diverted from elsewhere.  The world's highest
value company on market capitalisation makes toys.

My guess is the problem starts with our attitude towards work and
stealing other people's effort.  I believe this is as mad as, say,
societies that slaughtered their own teenagers to satisfy fertility
gods.  The problem is that we need guaranteed work programmes as a
means to share created wealth and duties to each other AND some means
through which this isn't some kind of horrible control system.  For
every answer there are 'Gabby objections' (no doubt I can produce
more).  About half he youth of Europe is unemployed.  There is work to
do, but surely trying to turn everyone into a Santa's elf producing
neater mobile toys can;t help.

I'm led to believe deep confusion in our ideologies almost
automatically produces non-answers.

On 3 Sep, 20:09, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have been reading this posting  oddly I am lost, I know there needs to be
> a solution.. But I do not have any ideas..
> Allan
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> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I sense you've thrown the Ayn Rand baby away. But there are places she
> > discusses money and how it is an expression of value, how it represents
> > honest work, and why it deserves to be trashed when it accrues on account
> > of efforts that are corrupt or valueless.
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> |_D Allan
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> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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> I am a Natural Airgunner -
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>  Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.

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