Re: Mind's Eye The Others

I have almost exactly the opposite feeling about any alien species we
might run into. I think alien afficionadoes here on Earth are looking
for Benevolent Space Brothers to bail us out of our collective
trainwreck. And what we're going to find, once the romance of spaceships
has been stripped away, is that the aliens will turn out to be people
with problems, just like us. No big solutions, no cold fusion,no star
trek. Just some guys who can travel a bit, but who wonder when they'll
hit pay dirt and what it all means.


--Bill





On 10/22/2012 10:12 AM, archytas wrote:
> I have it that passing aliens will say to themselves 'should we stop
> and help those poor, daft sods out'? I suspect the reply is a groaned
> chorus that apes are always more trouble than they are worth.
>
> I think we will find life or fossils on Mars soon - maybe only of
> bacteria-like creatures. There are creatures on Earth that 'breathe'
> sulphur rather than oxygen (or at least metabolise using the stuff -
> it's very like oxygen if you remember the periodic table).
> I wonder whether aliens will have a teenage phase - humans are the
> only such species on Earth.
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> Current sway in physics is not to Big Bang - but rather a collision of
> three flat universes, so the potential vastness is 'huge'. Science
> fiction is an odd genre and has almost no science in it at all.
> There's a planet in Alpha Centuri and possibly others - about 4.3
> light years distant. One can imagine travel there with improvements
> in current technology - including our own genetic transformation using
> features of other life here to allow cryostasis. There's a algae that
> cooperate by 'climbing on each others backs' in surf so that the top
> ones get shot into the air and then jet-stream.
>
> I like the idea of a man (suitably changed) or woman shooting off to
> 'breed' with an alien race that directly perceives dark matter.
> Breeding would not be the kind of thing rigsy and I might imagine in a
> distant alternative past involving theatre, wine, whisky and all the
> fun of child-rearing and 'regret'. It might be altogether more
> adventurous. Sex, by this time, might be more directly about
> knowledge-sharing and a new quest for the Holy Grail. Any ideas on
> wooing an intelligent arthropod Bill?
>
> On 22 Oct, 07:10, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> lol Bill me thinks you are preoccupied with aliens...
>> Of course there are "other" species the universe is to large for it
>> not to occur..
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>> it is more of a question of what type of space drive have they
>> developed.. or have the figured out how to grasp the very fabric of
>> space and pull space toward themselves.. or how to travel immense
>> distances.. fortunately we have not.
>> Allan
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>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 12:03 AM, William L Houts <luka...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Hey, Illuminated Friends,
>>> I'm thinking I may have already asked this question in essence, but I'm
>>> rolling it out again. It seems that I'm the high woo woo guy in this crowd,
>>> though I freely admit that everyone entertains my high woo woo ideas with
>>> all seriousness and courtesy.
>>> So this is the thing: does the final game boil down to just humans and God
>>> --whatever who / that is-- or do you suppose that we share this huge
>>> universe --a universe positively dripping with poisonous gamma rays-- with
>>> alien others? For my own part, I'm thinking that the cosmos has cooked up
>>> numerous quasi-crustacean species on at least hundreds of thousands of
>>> worlds in our galaxy alone, with an additional several hundred sentient
>>> species for good measure. Most human beings, it seems to me, are basically
>>> good as long as they're getting their basic animal requirements met, so I
>>> also think that a few intelligent anthropoids have survived long enough to
>>> have become space-faring peoples. It is beyond me, though, why any such
>>> people would find us very interesting at this point in our history. Another
>>> thousand years, should we make it that long, though, and I think that the
>>> "Alien Love Fest" sequence from the end of "Close Encounters of the Third
>>> Kind" will have become reality.
>>> --Mad William
>>> --
>>> "I just flew in from the Land of the Dead
>>> and boy are my arms tired."
>>> --
>> --
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>> |_D Allan
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>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>>
>> I am a Natural Airgunner -
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>> Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.


--
"I just flew in from the Land of the Dead
and boy are my arms tired."

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