Re: Mind's Eye Re: Aliens, Slavery and Resources

OH, I agree with you about that. And it's basically the point I was
trying to make to my irascible friend, Matthew. I don't think you solve
your most difficult energy problems and go on to be a galactic terrorist.
Terrorism is largely a strategy of the weak. And if you've mastered
warp drive, then you probably have all kinds of toys available to you,
including zero point energy or some equivalent.

I just finished reading Matt's latest post on Facebook. He sang a
waspish little aria about how I didn't understand reality and that he
wasn't enjoying this conversation at ALL, and that he was hereby closing
down his side of the argument. Matt really can be a pissy little queen
sometimes.


--Bill

On 10/24/2012 10:01 AM, archytas wrote:
> I find it hard to think technologically advanced beings would be
> bastards Bill. The so-called trade of imperialism was actually
> depraved - with concentration camps, limb-severing and so on. Queens
> have to have their dramas mate! The aliens could be as bad as we have
> been. It would be good to explore good aliens and what such a good
> life might be. We could not, in current biological form, share it.
> They might leave us with the means to change so we could. I'd choose
> Damon Laplace's route in genetic change to travel the stars rather
> than live a normal life span in an agrarian collective - but I'd
> choose that over my current life in 'the economy'.
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> In my least favourite episode of Voyager, Janeway refuses to drop her
> knickers for the technology that will get her crew home. There could
> be reasons for carrying a few casual queens in our crew! The quirks
> thrown up in evolution usually have their uses.
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> I think the chimps and dolphins ponder the human questions Lee. Many
> animals, including chimps and scrub jays seem to hold 'funerals'.
> Some clams live 500 years (off Iceland) without our angst. My ideal
> aliens will have a rational hatred of soap opera.
>
> On 24 Oct, 16:23, Lee Douglas <leerevdoug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think that Human history shows that it is very hard to break out of
>> 'modes of thought' that eon, geography and culture instill into us. How
>> hard then to reason as a non Earthling would? I think the only viable
>> answer to your question is to say, I don't know.
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>> Perhaps if we could get into the psyches of some of the other creatures
>> that we share this planet with, we may find, or not, some similarities. It
>> is an interesting question to ponder though. Does having
>> a consciousness at a level sufficient enough to
>> claim intelligence, inevitably lead to the asking of similar questions?
>> Elephants, who I do belive to show a certain standard of
>> emotional understanding and intelligence, do they ask 'Life! What's it all
>> about?'
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>> On Wednesday, 24 October 2012 12:19:42 UTC+1, William L. Houts William L.
>> Houts Lukaeon William L. Houts wrote:
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>>> All right, I just wanted to run this by you guys. I know it seems I'm
>>> always rattlling on about aliens, but they're really a stand in for,
>>> well, for a lot of things. Anyway, I've been on Facebook and recently
>>> made a status report commenting on the conversation we had going on here
>>> about hypothetical aliens and what they might or might not want from
>>> us. And I was making the point that I made here: that said aliens will
>>> turn out to be just as befuddled by it all as we are, and are probably
>>> in no position to give us the goods on life's mysteries, or even make a
>>> good cocktail.
>>> Now, my friend Matt, who is very smart but also very bitchy, put forth
>>> Professor Hawking's notion: that we'd better keep our heads down low,
>>> because history tells us that when a more technologically advanced
>>> species meets a less developed one, the results are usually horrible for
>>> the latter. I replied that yes, this does seem to be the pattern in
>>> Earth history. But, I went on, races which manage to break the
>>> lightspeed barrier are going to have better things to do than enslave 7
>>> billion people, or even mistreat them very much. Their energy problems,
>>> I said more or less, will have been solved to such an extent that they
>>> won't have to vampirize us. Matt made it clear that he thought I was
>>> being terrifically naive.
>>> Now, Mat is quickly becoming a sour old queen, but I want to know: with
>>> whom would you agree? Or is there a third answer which I haven't
>>> proposed here?
>>> --Bill
>>> --
>>> "I just flew in from the Land of the Dead
>>> and boy are my arms tired."


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"I just flew in from the Land of the Dead
and boy are my arms tired."

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