Re: Mind's Eye Re: Peer Networking

Oddly enough, BBC radio was talking about Egyptians setting up off-
shore accounts to avoid their national taxes so it's probably
pandemic. It's easier to shuffle funds with the new technology versus
those of us in the middle that are tied down.

On Oct 2, 1:14 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I really have nothing against success  and wealth,  what I see wrong is the
> hoarding  deliberate avoidance of tax.. and passing laws so they do not
> have to pay tax,,  personally I think capital gains of minimum tax of 35%
> no deductions,.. Hidden money  85% plus all cost of locating the funds
>  plus a 10% reward tax free to anyone locating these hidden funds.
> Allan
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 3:12 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Some wealth is not evil, Allan. It depends on how it is acquired and
> > used. Like it or not, it is one of the markers of success.
>
> > On Sep 30, 7:58 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Rigsy I really feel sorry for those people who are hide from their
> > > responsibilities especially for greed..  the soul in this human vehicle
> > has
> > > to return to the mandala  where their greed will be held in account..  if
> > > it is perfectly legal is a viable excuse  well all I can say is good
> > luck.
> > > Allan
>
> > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 2:37 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > But people can "hide" their wealth in the USA anyway via trusts,
> > > > certain investments, taking advantage of laws in other states for tax
> > > > purposes. These and other methods are perfectly legal.
>
> > > > On Sep 28, 9:02 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > that is a cool idea   preventing people from hiding to avoid paying
> > > > taxes,,
>
> > > > > evil wicked laugh
> > > > > Allan
> > > > > On Sep 28, 2012 2:34 PM, "rigsy03" <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > P.S. Re: that video that showed over-testing- sometimes dangerous
> > or
> > > > > > nonsense- but I don't remember if they mentioned that the medical
> > > > > > profession is terrified of malpractice suits.
>
> > > > > > Greece wants their super- rich who have moved to other nations to
> > pay
> > > > > > taxes. Can they extradite them?
>
> > > > > > On Sep 27, 9:14 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > The basic motive is competition and profit so corners are cut or
> > > > > > > falsified sometimes. Also, it is a game to sharp traders. And I
> > think
> > > > > > > it goes further back than the Middle Ages- how about ancient
> > > > > > > mythologies? The trickster deities were warnings- "buyer beware".
>
> > > > > > > Somewhat related; "Money & Medicine"
> > > > > >http://video.pbs.org/video/2280765671
>
> > > > > > > Had a back molar pulled yesterday. My neighbor took me over,
> > waited
> > > > > > > and drove me home- he is a dear. Advice: if one MUST smoke, use a
> > > > > > > cigarette holder away from the socket; follow advice about cold
> > packs
> > > > > > > and pain meds; keep foods interesting like polenta with butter
> > and
> > > > > > > parmesan, carrot-ginger soup, scrambled eggs, etc., avoiding
> > > > > > > extraction site and keep to a sane diet till healing is complete.
>
> > > > > > > On Sep 27, 6:10 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > The 'official speak' of my postmodernism is 'Lakatosian
> > paradigm in
> > > > > > > > decadence' - regulations are cheated.  It's getting more
> > difficult
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > cheat in sport these days because of drug-testing, referees
> > and the
> > > > > > > > video replay.  Just as his was happening in sport, 'someone'
> > > > decided
> > > > > > > > to let all the rules go to pot in finance.  I had a very lovely
> > > > friend
> > > > > > > > who cheated at Monopoly - the cheating being part of the fun
> > of the
> > > > > > > > game with no damage done.  My feelings are much like rigsy's -
> > I
> > > > just
> > > > > > > > think ethics require public scrutiny, ideology prevents this
> > and we
> > > > > > > > could do the refereeing better. My guess is the problem is
> > > > essentially
> > > > > > > > economics and business practices that are medieval and trapped
> > in
> > > > > > > > animal genetics.  Simples!
>
> > > > > > > > On 26 Sep, 07:44, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Where do you feel Rigsy's stick of despair? She sounds very
> > up to
> > > > > > date
> > > > > > > > > to my ears, criticizing our fast unculture (modern positive
> > > > keyword:
> > > > > > > > > sustainability).
>
> > > > > > > > > And Neil posted numbered to do lists in order save the world
> > at
> > > > least
> > > > > > > > > twice, as far as I remember. You would have liked them if
> > they
> > > > had
> > > > > > > > > sprung off your mind. ;)
>
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 2:21 AM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Rigs, you seem to be beating here, there and everywhere
> > with
> > > > your
> > > > > > stick of
> > > > > > > > > > despair ! Modernism has only changed the form of effects
> > of our
> > > > > > failures.
> > > > > > > > > > Even Neil's post-modern theory of ethics seems needlessly
> > > > complex.
>
> > > > > > > > > > It's us. Period. Ethics requires people who are moral.
> > Which,
> > > > in my
> > > > > > > > > > perspective, translates as men who are evolved ...
> > spiritually
> > > > > > evolved ...
> > > > > > > > > > with whom, conscientiousness is supreme virtue.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Contemplation will take us back to that Truth, of which I
> > > > tried to
> > > > > > share not
> > > > > > > > > > so long ago.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Honesty is a corollary of truth. It's us. The society you
> > are
> > > > > > beating is us.
> > > > > > > > > > Technology and wealth are neutral and inert. If inebriation
> > > > was in
> > > > > > alcohol,
> > > > > > > > > > the bottles should dance !
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 6:21:10 PM UTC+5:30, rigsy03
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > >> The ethics are already in place, Allan- they are just not
> > > > > > practised.
> > > > > > > > > >> You could include "greedy" imperialistic nations, berserk
> > > > > > cultures,
> > > > > > > > > >> grasping political parties. More's "Utopia" stressed
> > humanism
> > > > > > which is
> > > > > > > > > >> under stress due to science and technology today- the new
> > > > darling.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> On Sep 24, 10:00 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > Ethics are going to be definitely reinvented getting
> > greeedy
> > > > > > individuals
> > > > > > > > > >> > and corporations under control.
> > > > > > > > > >> > Allan
>
> > > > > > > > > >> > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:59 PM, rigsy03 <
> > rigs...@yahoo.com
>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > A recent example: "Reinventing Ethics" by Howard
> > Gardner
>
> >http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/23/reinventing-ethics/?s.
> > > > ..
>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > On Sep 24, 7:50 am, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > The government decides how to spend/mis-spend the
> > taxes
> > > > and
> > > > > > fees
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > they
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > raise because we thought it wise at one time to give
> > > > them
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > power.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Banks have altered their function and don't forget
> > > > credit
> > > > > > cards as
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > unsecured loans. Somehow, my mind drifted to Plato's
> > > > > > "Republic"- but
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > there are many examples of attempts to organize
> > society-
> > > > > > none of
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > which, imho, has done a very good job. There is an
> > > > > > impossible lack
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > of
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > control particularly since the advent of Liberalism.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > On Sep 22, 6:29 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > I think the germ of the idea is in this Don.  All
> > > > money
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > essentially
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > comes from government - what we get from banks is
> > > > debt.
> > > > > >  Street-up
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > decision-making isn't all of it as rigsy points
> > out.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > On 22 Sep, 12:26, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > You still have to deal with priorities on that
> > list,
> > > > > > however.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > Stadiums
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > might trump infrastructure.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Sep 22, 5:22 am, Don Johnson <
> > daj...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> >http://professional.wsj.com/article/SB1000087239639044416580457800851.
> > > > ..
>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > This is what I'm talking about!
> > Decentralization
> > > > is
> > > > > > key. I
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > believe
> > > > > > > > > >> > > this is
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > your busy bees at work Neil.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > "Peer networks don't have to involve digital
> > > > > > technology.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Twenty
> > > > > > > > > >> > > years ago,
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > the Brazilian city of Porto Alegre pioneered a
> > > > > > radical new
> > > > > > > > > >> > > technique called
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > "participatory budgeting." Each year, the
> > city's
> > > > 16
> > > > > > regions
> > > > > > > > > >> > > conduct general
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > assemblies in which neighbors debate
> > priorities
> > > > for
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > budget:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > school
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > construction, sewer repair, bridge building.
> > The
> > > > > > assemblies
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > create
> > > > > > > > > >> > > a ranked
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > list of projects, and the government disperses
> > > > funds
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > accordingly.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > The money
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > comes from the state, but the decision of
> > what to
> > > > > > fund comes
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > >> > > the
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > street."
>
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