Re: Mind's Eye Instinct for survival

who said the original creator had to be either matter or energy..
There is always the third choice :: neither of the above.. Sorry to
disapoint you..
Allan

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:22 PM, andrew vecsey <andrewvecsey@gmail.com> wrote:
> The paradoxical dilemma of who created the creator can be circumnavigated by
> the possibility that the original creator was not matter, but energy. Just
> like thinking of anything is much faster and much easier than building it,
> it becomes conceivable that energy patterns could have evolved in a random
> chance way and finely tuned by selective processes to reach intelligence
> similar to how most scientists believe that patterns of atoms and molecules
> evolved to form intelligent life.
>
> Energy patterns could have evolved to a point that they manipulated atoms to
> desired patterns and forms to code the information required for life and to
> allow them to evolve on their own to complex intelligent beings able to
> wonder at and eventually to solve the riddle of where they came from, where
> they are going and why they are alive. Meaning and purpose could then be
> given to our fleeting moment of existence.
>
>
> On Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:55:05 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote:
>>
>> ....... All we have in respect of this is to posit
>> creation, begging the question of what created that in an infinite
>> regress. .....We might get to an intelligent state in which creation
>> myths are replaced by something more plausible and Truth comes closer.
>>
>> On 29 Nov, 01:41, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Neil , even after re-transposition how long could the brain live
>> > --1000 years , 10000years or maybe as long as the universe ,but
>> > ultimately it will die or be destroyed at the end - time of the
>> > universe. What survives is the Truth behind life and nothing else.
>> >
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>> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:33 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > What survives is the gene - subject to mutations etc. We are already
>> > > 'Borg' in the sense of mass assimilation. One's mind could be
>> > > transposed to another substrate (nearish future) - our bodies are
>> > > currently replaced every 5 years or so- and the new substrate could
>> > > have nanobots that would allow minds to outlive Lee's 'hope'. Such
>> > > substrated minds might link in super-intelligence and be able to re-
>> > > transfer into more human-like bodies they learned to make. This would
>> > > be a time beyond singularity. We don't know what such intelligence
>> > > might invent or even discover - perhaps such intelligence would
>> > > discover we are not as alone as we think. Being human or human being
>> > > might be as irrelevant as a mitochondria wanting to live free again.
>> > > We might be free of the tiny machines (genes) so much part of our
>> > > behaviour now.
>> >
>> > > On 28 Nov, 14:40, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> T9 grrrrrrr
>> > >> Allan
>> >
>> > >> Matrix ** th3 beginning light
>> > >> On Nov 28, 2012 11:38 AM, "gabbydott" <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >> > Ah! That's the extended version of 'possibly maybe' then (my
>> > >> > grammar and
>> > >> > spelling checker suggests 10 instead of 'then' though)! :)
>> >
>> > >> > 2012/11/28 James <ashkas...@gmail.com>
>> >
>> > >> >> I am an aspect of what was, is, and will be, coextensively. Maybe.
>> >
>> > >> >> On 11/27/2012 2:28 AM, RP Singh wrote:
>> >
>> > >> >>> Attachment to life is the cause of the desire for immortality and
>> > >> >>> the
>> > >> >>> readiness to believe in an after-life or re-birth. It is an
>> > >> >>> off-shoot of
>> > >> >>> the instinct for survival.
>> >
>> > >> >>> --
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>> > >> >> --
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>> > >> > --
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