Re: Mind's Eye Re: Aliens, Slavery and Resources

Food has been the currency around here in many ways. My second husband
could sense trouble brewing when the cooking stalled. :-)

On Oct 31, 2:02 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> has the supreme court of Rigsy ruled that cookies must be supplied on demand??
> Allan
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> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:39 AM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > You are all very sweet to wish me well but I am safely nestled in
> > America's belly. I will join your collective wishes for the east coast
> > as it is ruinous and very sad to track.//Catching up: the fall lawn
> > clean-up and cut backs were the best ever- hope the snow service is
> > the same later on. My daughter has scared me with visions of a sugar
> > plum Christmas she remembers from her childhood forgetting that she
> > has abscounded with most all the decorations- even to the cookie
> > cutters! We'll work it out. Have been getting bedrooms and kitchen in
> > gear for the holidays so there isn't a last minute rush/heart attack.
> > This house is a riot- but that is another topic. A couple invitations-
> > will go to one- a baby shower. Exit the momastery! And yes, Gabby, was
> > thinking of the warm sun during these cloudy days and cold nights. Saw
> > myself sitting in the desert- very strange. Love to all- be safe.
>
> > On Oct 30, 7:53 pm, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Yes, hope all is well for you rigsy.  In Detroit we have Sandy's wind and a
> >> bit of rain and sleet, but nothing like NYC.  thinking of you with love.
>
> >> On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:20:35 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote:
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> >> > sounds like you are really going to be needing your snow guy Rigsy,,
> >> > heard WV had over a meter of snow fall  that must be a bitch.
> >> > Allan
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> >> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:56 PM, gabbydott <gabb...@gmail.com<javascript:>>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > You see, Neil, that's exactly why I thought we have Rigsy write the
> >> > > abstract and make her come out of the kitchen after her snow guy had
> >> > > done his job. You have spoiled it all now!
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> >> > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:25 AM, archytas <nwt...@gmail.com<javascript:>>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >> I've just become a paradigm case of Bill's "bored traveller" - long
> >> > >> weekend with an American friend in Rome looking at art entailing the
> >> > >> Vatican (which didn't spontaneously combust) - Bernini etc.  There was
> >> > >> a Hombeck on candle-light which will stick forever.  I got the
> >> > >> impression Bernini could do something in static stone that would give
> >> > >> the impression of a Jimmy Johnstone dribble (he was the best ever at
> >> > >> this spectacle, if not the most effective player in modern soccer
> >> > >> terms).  Couldn't get a coffee in the city that never sleeps at 3 a.m.
> >> > >> and ended-up in a Mcdonalds.  The place is a dreadful tourist rip-off
> >> > >> and a week would have bankrupted us.  Flight home was delayed by an
> >> > >> outbreak of Italian indolence and refusal to drive the bus to the
> >> > >> plane.  Airport full of disgruntled Americans delayed by Sandy.
> >> > >> Greece and Rome descend from slave economies and attitudes that work
> >> > >> scars the soul.
> >> > >> There was so much to see and it was so pleasant to walk I came home
> >> > >> hobbling on a blister.
>
> >> > >> Much biology is based on the economics of energy - we always seem to
> >> > >> want explanation in terms of why an organism would expend the energy
> >> > >> required to maintain an organ and so on.  Our brains and even memory
> >> > >> need justification in energy terms.  Much of my own interest in the
> >> > >> subject concerns desire to overcome its predestination - which these
> >> > >> days would be talked about through the notion of co-evolution and its
> >> > >> 'arms races'.  My own guess for a long time has been we need to
> >> > >> organise work differently - I favour a federal Europe (World) of a
> >> > >> free table with work as a shared obligation - but one always finds
> >> > >> such opinion has been held before - one example here would be the
> >> > >> Strasser brothers who organised the Nazis when Hitler came out of
> >> > >> jail.  Politically I tend to think we are stuck in the hands of a
> >> > >> rentier class much as in the inter-war years.
>
> >> > >> I think some UFO-dreaming could help us understand this and even Star
> >> > >> Trek touches the fringes.  We might, very un-art, start by wondering
> >> > >> who cleans the toilets on the Enterprise.
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> >> > >> On 29 Oct, 19:02, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>> The Golden Way out of deference? Yes, that's probably the meaning
> >> > >>> Molly is trying to convey. Thanks, Allan.
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> >> > >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>> > Gabby one of the major deference between me and christianity is I
> >> > see
> >> > >>> > God as what makes up my being,,  I do not see God as being else
> >> > where.
> >> > >>> > I am expected to live up to my beliefs not making excuses to justify
> >> > >>> > violating those rules.
> >> > >>> > Allan
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> >> > >>> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:24 PM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>> >> Oh, hi Molly! Yes, it's true, I dared to read the bible on the same
> >> > >>> >> level as fairy tales. My Protestant nature, I guess. Going out,
> >> > >>> >> looking out, speaking out is part of that tradition too. What is it
> >> > in
> >> > >>> >> your life that makes you being different?
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> >> > >>> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>> >>> Looking for God outside oneself can lead to magical gang gods at a
> >> > level
> >> > >>> >>> where only the fit and corrupt survive.  Many fairy tales are
> >> > imbued with
> >> > >>> >>> mystical thinking, including the bible.
>
> >> > >>> >>> On Monday, October 29, 2012 5:20:17 AM UTC-4, gabbydott wrote:
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> >> > >>> >>>> I don't know why these far-away and up-above gods and godesses
> >> > never
> >> > >>> >>>> really made it into my heart. Maybe the down-to-earth fairy tales
> >> > >>> >>>> resembled my surroundings much more. It gives me the creeps when
> >> > >>> >>>> little street gangstas are referring to Nemesis and believe they
> >> > have
> >> > >>> >>>> got the key to the kingdom now.
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> >> > >>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:35 AM, rigsy03 <rig...@yahoo.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>> >>>> > I pray to a God everyday but am not sure which one. He is male
> >> > and
> >> > >>> >>>> > seems helpful. Today he bolstered my strength rearranging some
> >> > >>> >>>> > furniture then rebolstered me moving stuff back as it was.
> >> > However, I
> >> > >>> >>>> > cooked a hearty meal of steak, potatoes and asparagus for
> >> > insurance.//
> >> > >>> >>>> > I think the Greek and Roman gods and goddesses represent human
> >> > nature
> >> > >>> >>>> > and traits- really provide some valuable insights for mere
> >> > mortals.
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> >> > >>> >>>> > On Oct 28, 12:45 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>> >>>> >> Ah Lee, by that time you would have forgotten where you were
> >> > coming
> >> > >>> >>>> >> from!
>
> >> > >>> >>>> >> I like monotheism, because it supports my view of myself as an
> >> > >>> >>>> >> individual. And it allows me to act upon it as such. I am
> >> > aware that I
> >> > >>> >>>> >> am a social being though. Polytheism would be able to account
> >> > for
> >> > >>> >>>> >> that, but would probably only confuse me.
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> >> > >>> >>>> >> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Lee Douglas <
> >> > leerevdoug...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>> >>>> >> wrote:
> >> > >>> >>>> >> > Well that is true Rigsy, and perhaps your prediction is also
> >> > true.
> >> > >>> >>>> >> > However
> >> > >>> >>>> >> > religious faith is 'unreasonable' belief.  As it is my
> >> > stance that we
> >> > >>> >>>> >> > all
> >> > >>> >>>> >> > hold to some of these along the way, then perhaps it is a
> >> > wholly
> >> > >>> >>>> >> > human/sentient being trait and we'll not be rid of it, only
> >> > time will
> >> > >>> >>>> >> > tell.
> >> > >>> >>>> >> > Just one of the reasons I want to reach at least 400 years
> >> > old.
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> >> > >>> >>>> >> > On Sunday, October 28, 2012 12:52:50 PM UTC, rigsy03 wrote:
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> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> Really? What about the Italian scientists who face prison
> >> > time for
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> failing to predict the severity of an earthquake? What
> >> > harmony under
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> the mantle of monotheism? Science and technology will make
> >> > god(s)
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> obsolete and society can still be managed through various
> >> > value
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> systems based on new realities and methods of control.
> >> > Presently, we
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> are trying to integrate two oppositional positions which
> >> > accounts
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> for
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> a good amount of absurdity and disappointment. As extinct
> >> > creatures
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> might have warned us, sentimentality is deadly.
>
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> On Oct 28, 2:12 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > I really do not see much beyond monotheism  atheism holds
> >> > little
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > but
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > wishful madness, and as for polytheism the universes
> >> > would be
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > totally
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > different..   Just doesn't work.. You are right arrogance
> >> > is a
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > tremendous problem which I seriously doubt man will over
> >> > come..
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > those
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > that are arrogant have little reason to change.. It is
> >> > the
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > monotheism
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > that keeps some what harmony,,  the problems I see come
> >> > from man
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > changing the laws of God that have been handed down
> >> > through the
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > generations ..  It seems these changes are really
> >> > designed to
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > benefit
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > them and their goals.
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> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > without a singular God there would be no harmony even
> >> > with in
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > nature
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > and the predictability of science would disappear.
> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> > Allan
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