Re: Mind's Eye Re: Instinct for survival

Soul is the energy (or whatever you call that) that is bound/related to the I/me. It is in a process of constant transformation and the scientists are too slow to catch it and pin it down. That's the real problem. But not mine.

I am having great fun with my spelling checker and therefore attribute the label 'old soul' to it! :)

2012/11/28 Lee Douglas <leerevdouglas@gmail.com>
That is indeed what I belive, all that I am is in my brain, when that goes so do I.  What the soul may be, if I have one, I really don't know.

On Wednesday, 28 November 2012 10:46:22 UTC, RP Singh wrote:
Lee, do you believe that you are this body and nothing separate from
it , because if you don't then you haven't accepted death.

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Lee Douglas <leerev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You see RP sometimes I think you make perfect sense but mostly your
> insistance on generalising winds me up no end.  Of course this does not
> explain Athiests, or my own stance on death, or for that matter lots of
> people. We are of course all differant with differant subjective ways of
> seeing things and viewing life.  Myself being a Theist I'm still unsure as
> to the existance of a Soul, I mean I really don't know yet if I belive such
> a thing exists.  My own reasons for beliving in creative diety are many and
> complex.  Belife simply cannot be stripped down to pithey sounding short
> sentances that apply to all humans, because clearly they do not apply to all
> humans.
>
> On another subject I have just posted that I have no fear of death and have
> accepted that it may come at any time.  Perhaps then you do not realise how
> insulting it is to be called a liar.  Or perhaps i'm too involved with
> semantics and concentrate more on your choice of words than the message,
> ahhh but how else is one to treat written communication?  I must trust that
> the words you use, you have choosen to portay your meaning.  So when you say
> 'Yet we do not accept it...' I must belive that this is exactly what you
> mean to say, in effect  you reduce me, and all other individuals to a mass
> of humainity that follw the same rules.
>
>
> On Wednesday, 28 November 2012 10:05:19 UTC, RP Singh wrote:
>>
>> There is death all around us and so we cannot fail to see it , yet we
>> do not accept it and so we have developed an idea of souls. Our belief
>> in after-life or re-births is our insistence on immortality as we find
>> it hard to accept that we will go into a permanent oblivion , never to
>> return.The instinct for survival makes us readily accept these notions
>> of immortality as our intelligence is also coloured by our instincts.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Lee Douglas <leerev...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Heh where do you find these little sayings of yours RP.  Nope I don't
>> > agree
>> > this is true .
>> >
>> > Personaly I have spent some years questioning the attitude to life and
>> > death
>> > that we have.  It seems that for most life in and of itself is kinda
>> > sacred,
>> > or at least we act like it is.  I'm not sure on this though.  Dawin
>> > shows us
>> > that outside of our species death is a part of life and comes all too
>> > easily.  So I must say that life in and of itself is nothing special.
>> > Then
>> > you must mean life as we humans percive it.  However, I am now fully
>> > resigend to my own death and it will come when it does, and this no
>> > longer
>> > holds any fear for me.
>> >
>> > My own desires to live to be at least 400 years old though is by now
>> > widely
>> > reported here, and in other places.  This is not for the reasons you
>> > highlight above but sheer couriosity.  We are I feel at the cusp of
>> > enourmous change, over the next few hundred years we as a species are
>> > about
>> > to change in so many ways, and I want to see it.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tuesday, 27 November 2012 07:28:21 UTC, RP Singh wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Attachment to life is the cause of the desire for immortality and the
>> >> readiness to believe in an after-life or re-birth. It is an off-shoot
>> >> of the
>> >> instinct for survival.
>> >
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