Re: Mind's Eye Instinct for survival

Not all matter is energy, is it? What about "inert", negative space,
the pause etc. Aren't stars dead? I really should study the universe
as I don't know very much about space and the cosmos so forgive my
ignorance.

On Nov 30, 10:53 am, Lee Douglas <leerevdoug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Heh except of course that when it comes right down to it.energy is matter
> and matter is energy.
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> On Friday, 30 November 2012 11:22:14 UTC, andrew vecsey wrote:
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> > The paradoxical dilemma of who created the creator can be circumnavigated
> > by the possibility that the original creator was not matter, but energy.
> > Just like thinking of anything is much faster and much easier than building
> > it, it becomes conceivable that energy patterns could have evolved in a
> > random chance way and finely tuned by selective processes to reach
> > intelligence similar to how most scientists believe that patterns of atoms
> > and molecules evolved to form intelligent life.
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> > Energy patterns could have evolved to a point that they manipulated atoms
> > to desired patterns and forms to code the information required for life and
> > to allow them to evolve on their own to complex intelligent beings able to
> > wonder at and eventually to solve the riddle of where they came from, where
> > they are going and why they are alive. Meaning and purpose could then be
> > given to our fleeting moment of existence.
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> >  On Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:55:05 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote:
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> >> .......  All we have in respect of this is to posit
> >> creation, begging the question of what created that in an infinite
> >> regress.  .....We might get to an intelligent state in which creation
> >> myths are replaced by something more plausible and Truth comes closer.
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> >> On 29 Nov, 01:41, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Neil , even after re-transposition how long could the brain live
> >> > --1000 years , 10000years or maybe as long as the universe ,but
> >> > ultimately it will die or be destroyed at the end - time of the
> >> > universe. What survives is the Truth behind life and nothing else.
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> >> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:33 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > What survives is the gene - subject to mutations etc.  We are already
> >> > > 'Borg' in the sense of mass assimilation.  One's mind could be
> >> > > transposed to another substrate (nearish future) - our bodies are
> >> > > currently replaced every 5 years or so- and the new substrate could
> >> > > have nanobots that would allow minds to outlive Lee's 'hope'.  Such
> >> > > substrated minds might link in super-intelligence and be able to re-
> >> > > transfer into more human-like bodies they learned to make.  This
> >> would
> >> > > be a time beyond singularity.  We don't know what such intelligence
> >> > > might invent or even discover - perhaps such intelligence would
> >> > > discover we are not as alone as we think.  Being human or human being
> >> > > might be as irrelevant as a mitochondria wanting to live free again.
> >> > > We might be free of the tiny machines (genes) so much part of our
> >> > > behaviour now.
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> >> > > On 28 Nov, 14:40, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> T9   grrrrrrr
> >> > >> Allan
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> >> > >> Matrix  **  th3 beginning light
> >> > >> On Nov 28, 2012 11:38 AM, "gabbydott" <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> > >> > Ah! That's the extended version of 'possibly maybe' then (my
> >> grammar and
> >> > >> > spelling checker suggests 10 instead of 'then' though)! :)
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> >> > >> > 2012/11/28 James <ashkas...@gmail.com>
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> >> > >> >> I am an aspect of what was, is, and will be, coextensively.
> >> Maybe.
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> >> > >> >> On 11/27/2012 2:28 AM, RP Singh wrote:
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> >> > >> >>> Attachment to life is the cause of the desire for immortality
> >> and the
> >> > >> >>> readiness to believe in an after-life or re-birth. It is an
> >> off-shoot of
> >> > >> >>> the instinct for survival.
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> >> > >> >>> --
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