Re: Mind's Eye Re: A Book At Xmas or two

Interesting, achy, my husband and I are in the same boat.  I keep going back to the classics on my shelf and the rare books yet uncovered that I can find for a song at the internet bookseller.  Mostly, we surf the web for shreds of what is new in the research and come up short, as this is passed on at a need to know basis and posted on the Internet after the party or at the risk of indiscretion.  Reading has been more interesting during other phases of life for me.

On Thursday, December 27, 2012 7:08:50 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:

I do something similar to Molly.  Reading is largely about trying to
fly with ideas for me, different to the day-to-day.  I suspect most
people in here would like anyone who wants to to be able to access
universities.  I'd do this by changing what the university is.  What
we have actually been doing seems to be madness.  We are graduating
half our population without increasing 'working smarter' jobs or even
considering whether this is really possible - the probability is we
are devaluing graduate advantage just as we force kids into large debt
to get the qualifications.  Finance, traditionally an unwanted cost
against production and sales, now leeches massive amounts from
production we used to retain as wages and liquid capital amongst our
50% least well off (this was about 20% of GDP when I left school ans
is down to less than 1%).  What I find in reading is consistent
distraction from what really matters.  There isn't much difference
between watch mainstream news, whatever entertainment is on offer and
the academic vanity publishing.  It feels as though there is nothing
to read or watch.

On 27 Dec, 23:19, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't agree on the body language or behavioural cues rigs - all the
> tests done show we are about as reliable as the toss of a coin.  The
> people who are best at making us think we can read them are
> psychopaths - three times more likely to secure parole from 'experts'.
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> On 27 Dec, 09:15, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Yes the rich have more opportunities and exposure to make more
> > wealth..  why would you say that is Rigsy?? Why are not these
> > opportunities and exposure created for the poor? ..  they are the ones
> > that need it.  or could it be part of the perks of worshiping at the
> > feet of the golden calf??
> > Allan
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> > On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:49 AM, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It may be the rich have more opportunities and exposure, Allan. Human
> > > nature is human nature. Also, celebrity creates another kind of
> > > challenge as the artist types gain fame and fortune- often to laugh at
> > > their own popularity and adulation of the public and critics- Picasso
> > > comes to mind, for instance- have a savage quote of his around here
> > > somewhere.
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> > > On Dec 25, 8:04 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Oddly I think you have a better chance for good ethics among the poor
> > >> over the rich,
> > >> Allan
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> > >> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > I wonder if the researchers took into account that a truly ethical person
> > >> > would not participate in the kind of rubbish that presents predictable
> > >> > limited outcomes as fact.  There may, indeed, be a correlation between
> > >> > creativity and ethics, but I suspect it is more inclusive and requires
> > >> > examination without the limits designed to define results. I keep going back
> > >> > to the model of spiral dynamics, one that allows and understands that we all
> > >> > move up and down and between memes during our lives given the circumstances
> > >> > of our experience.  Someone who does not have enough money for food may
> > >> > cheat in this experiment more than someone who has never known financial
> > >> > stress or hunger.  Here is a pretty good explanation of the original Graves
> > >> > material, although I've seen better, its the best I could find online this
> > >> > morning.http://www.edumar.cl/documentos/SD_version_for_constellation5.pdf
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> > >> > On Monday, December 24, 2012 5:58:21 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:
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> > >> >> A free paper with the ideas is at
> > >> >>http://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Publication%20Files/11-064.pdf
> > >> >> I was interested because I find professional ethics and religious
> > >> >> morality collapse under circumstances of self-interest and become
> > >> >> rationalisation.  WE need creative solutions - but there is a dark
> > >> >> side to creativity.
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> > >> >> On 24 Dec, 22:03, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >  "The (Honest) Truth About Dishonesty: How We Lie to Everyone —
> > >> >> > Especially Ourselves" by Dan Ariely asks a seemingly simple question —
> > >> >> > "is dishonesty largely restricted to a few bad apples, or is it a more
> > >> >> > widespread problem?" — and goes on to reveal the surprising,
> > >> >> > illuminating, often unsettling truths that underpin the uncomfortable
> > >> >> > answer. Like cruelty, dishonesty turns out to be a remarkably
> > >> >> > prevalent phenomenon better explained by circumstances and cognitive
> > >> >> > processes than by concepts like character.
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> > >> >> > Work like this is challenging traditional economics - the genre is
> > >> >> > 'behavioural economics'.  My own take on this book and a lot of work
> > >> >> > from brain science and history is that we are at a tipping point in
> > >> >> > respect of the possibility of a human science.  I'd like to see a
> > >> >> > broader literature take up this challenge beyond current drivel on
> > >> >> > black and white hats.
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> > >> >> > So what are you guys reading?
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> > >> |_D Allan
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> > >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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> > >> Of course I talk to myself,
> > >> Sometimes I need expert advice..- Hide quoted text -
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> > |_D Allan
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> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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> > Of course I talk to myself,
> > Sometimes I need expert advice..

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