Re: Mind's Eye Re: A Book At Xmas or two

Thinking more about this I have decided human behaviors are part of
our animal camouflage (predator-prey). And body language is often
unconscious reflexes that can be discerned- even those of a sociopath
or psychopath.

On Dec 28, 12:22 pm, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe women read signals differently. :-) It could be that motherhood/
> wifedom trains them to anticipate. I'm pretty good at spotting a
> phoney- even better in retrospect.//Maybe fear is the unlying motive
> of a lie- starting in childhood.//We learn behaviors that give us
> security in the family and groups- even negative behavior- as in
> addictive personalities seeking relationships that are familiar to
> deal with, etc.//My daughter is quite ill with a 104 temp (the flu)
> and the last two days have been pretty hectic but she is coming round
> and thankfully the grandchildren are very easy for me and have lots to
> keep them busy and entertained.
>
> On Dec 27, 5:19 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I don't agree on the body language or behavioural cues rigs - all the
> > tests done show we are about as reliable as the toss of a coin.  The
> > people who are best at making us think we can read them are
> > psychopaths - three times more likely to secure parole from 'experts'.
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> > On 27 Dec, 09:15, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > Yes the rich have more opportunities and exposure to make more
> > > wealth..  why would you say that is Rigsy?? Why are not these
> > > opportunities and exposure created for the poor? ..  they are the ones
> > > that need it.  or could it be part of the perks of worshiping at the
> > > feet of the golden calf??
> > > Allan
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> > > On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:49 AM, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > It may be the rich have more opportunities and exposure, Allan. Human
> > > > nature is human nature. Also, celebrity creates another kind of
> > > > challenge as the artist types gain fame and fortune- often to laugh at
> > > > their own popularity and adulation of the public and critics- Picasso
> > > > comes to mind, for instance- have a savage quote of his around here
> > > > somewhere.
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> > > > On Dec 25, 8:04 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> Oddly I think you have a better chance for good ethics among the poor
> > > >> over the rich,
> > > >> Allan
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> > > >> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > I wonder if the researchers took into account that a truly ethical person
> > > >> > would not participate in the kind of rubbish that presents predictable
> > > >> > limited outcomes as fact.  There may, indeed, be a correlation between
> > > >> > creativity and ethics, but I suspect it is more inclusive and requires
> > > >> > examination without the limits designed to define results. I keep going back
> > > >> > to the model of spiral dynamics, one that allows and understands that we all
> > > >> > move up and down and between memes during our lives given the circumstances
> > > >> > of our experience.  Someone who does not have enough money for food may
> > > >> > cheat in this experiment more than someone who has never known financial
> > > >> > stress or hunger.  Here is a pretty good explanation of the original Graves
> > > >> > material, although I've seen better, its the best I could find online this
> > > >> > morning.http://www.edumar.cl/documentos/SD_version_for_constellation5.pdf
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> > > >> > On Monday, December 24, 2012 5:58:21 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:
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> > > >> >> A free paper with the ideas is at
> > > >> >>http://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Publication%20Files/11-064.pdf
> > > >> >> I was interested because I find professional ethics and religious
> > > >> >> morality collapse under circumstances of self-interest and become
> > > >> >> rationalisation.  WE need creative solutions - but there is a dark
> > > >> >> side to creativity.
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> > > >> >> On 24 Dec, 22:03, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >> >  "The (Honest) Truth About Dishonesty: How We Lie to Everyone —
> > > >> >> > Especially Ourselves" by Dan Ariely asks a seemingly simple question —
> > > >> >> > "is dishonesty largely restricted to a few bad apples, or is it a more
> > > >> >> > widespread problem?" — and goes on to reveal the surprising,
> > > >> >> > illuminating, often unsettling truths that underpin the uncomfortable
> > > >> >> > answer. Like cruelty, dishonesty turns out to be a remarkably
> > > >> >> > prevalent phenomenon better explained by circumstances and cognitive
> > > >> >> > processes than by concepts like character.
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> > > >> >> > Work like this is challenging traditional economics - the genre is
> > > >> >> > 'behavioural economics'.  My own take on this book and a lot of work
> > > >> >> > from brain science and history is that we are at a tipping point in
> > > >> >> > respect of the possibility of a human science.  I'd like to see a
> > > >> >> > broader literature take up this challenge beyond current drivel on
> > > >> >> > black and white hats.
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> > > >> >> > So what are you guys reading?
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> > > >> > --
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> > > >> --
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> > > >>   )
> > > >> |_D Allan
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> > > >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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> > > >> Of course I talk to myself,
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> > > |_D Allan
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> > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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