Re: Mind's Eye Re: Intelligent Design

You can understand only that which you are capable of understanding
and no amount of reiteration can change that--but still one hopes. I
have given a lot of consideration to your mandala , whether it is
great or small , and I have to admit that you will find me to be an
atheist in that regard.

On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com> wrote:
> That is not what you said,, you said god is Nature and nature is a
> know form and shape (s) .. the argument you are using a definition
> god is nature is one of atheism uses to prove their is no god..
>
> You are right I have known that for a long time you always come back
> to the same point ,, again and again you have no freedom to learn and
> what is more important is grow in spirituality..but that is what
> happens when you beliefs that don't allow one iota of freedom. you
> act as if you have all the freedom of the universe,, but you always
> come back to the same point you have not one iota of freedom. in
> other words you have no real beliefs just hand me down dogma and
> doctrine which you dare not stray from.. that is okay souther baptist
> are the same way.. no big deal salvation is based how you live your
> life or let me see dharma
>
> You have no idea of what my relationship is with my God because it is
> not your god and you do not to understand nor do you want to
> understand the beliefs of others..
>
> You really are funny as you have no idea of your place on the great
> mandala. much less mine. It is not my place to judge. RP you have no
> real idea of what spirituality is.. there is a big difference between
> me and you .. I am willing to learn
> Allan
>
>
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> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:24 PM, RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com> wrote:
>> An atheist is a person who does not believe in God , whereas , Allan,
>> to me God is more powerful than He is to you. My God is omnipotent and
>> does not allow even an iota of freedom , whereas you are forever free
>> to do as you wish and god like your father only scolds you and is
>> before your eyes to hear and see. To me God is formless and
>> unattainable , whereas you are always seeing Him and attain to Him
>> when you reach that stage in your mandala.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> You are funny RP the argument is simple you are an devote atheist
>>> and before your statement is the exact argument that has been used
>>> for generations of atheists... Why would I search for deeper meaning
>>> in statements of what I consider foolishness.. for your reading
>>> information what you are trying to say is involved in
>>> transcendentalism.. that can go in many directions and in itself is
>>> interesting.
>>> You RP are the perfect Atheist by definition what is funnier you
>>> don't know it.. lol
>>> Allan
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 12:03 PM, RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I don't understand your argument , but one thing is sure that I have
>>>> never claimed to have had visions. I have always believed in an undual
>>>> God , Nature or Atman which by my definition transcends awareness or
>>>> to be blunt is unconscious. I know you have never read my posts
>>>> carefully and thus your confusion regarding my statements and beliefs.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Sorry RP heard that discussion before over a coffee table in Florida
>>>>> some `25 years ago and the person laying forth the argument is a
>>>>> devote atheist argument and not new. simple one way to explain on
>>>>> going life and expanding knowledge,, one used by atheist..
>>>>> Now you are claiming that atheist believe in God.. verry confusing..
>>>>> Allan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 9:36 AM, RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Allan , an atheist is a person who doesn't believe in intelligent
>>>>>> design. God and Nature are one and the same. Merry Christmas to you !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> you are a very confusing person RP ..one moment you claim to be
>>>>>>> enlightened with visions and deep spiritual convictions and here you
>>>>>>> are desperately trying to prove you are an atheist,, and atheism is
>>>>>>> acceptable .. or are you just a confused puppy not knowing where to
>>>>>>> turn?
>>>>>>> Have a good holiday
>>>>>>> Allan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 8:29 AM, RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Instead of believing in an Intelligent designer if we believe that
>>>>>>>> Nature itself is inherently intelligent and things move on with an
>>>>>>>> intelligent purpose , which though not easily recognizable as such, is
>>>>>>>> in any case true may well be within your belief system , Neil. In
>>>>>>>> spite of mayhem caused by natural disasters life still moves on and
>>>>>>>> the fact that Nature will one day destroy all life and the universe
>>>>>>>> doesn't negate its intelligence. Growth doesn't move forward
>>>>>>>> continuously but after a certain stage decay starts creeping in.
>>>>>>>> Everything is born , grows , and dies and this is true for all
>>>>>>>> manifestations of Nature and doesn't negate its intelligent design.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:57 AM, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I tend to agree RP, though I don't stretch to an intelligent designer
>>>>>>>>> other than as a possibility. We might be approaching a tipping point
>>>>>>>>> on the reason for existence.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 24 Dec, 18:29, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> The systematic way in which this body is formed and works shows that there
>>>>>>>>>> is Intelligence in Nature and we won't be far wrong if we call it
>>>>>>>>>> Intelligent design. That which appears to be random choice is actually a
>>>>>>>>>> high level of Intelligence.
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> |_D Allan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course I talk to myself,
>>>>>>> Sometimes I need expert advice..
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>>>>> |_D Allan
>>>>>
>>>>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course I talk to myself,
>>>>> Sometimes I need expert advice..
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>> |_D Allan
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>>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>>>
>>> Of course I talk to myself,
>>> Sometimes I need expert advice..
>>>
>>> --
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> |_D Allan
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> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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> Of course I talk to myself,
> Sometimes I need expert advice..
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