Re: Mind's Eye Windows Eight

To be fair the W8 thing is now working a bit better than 7 did - I
just resent it not coming with easier upgrade and having to re-install
most programmes. The big problem turned out to be with EA Games.
Shut down and restart are now quicker and I was able to use my laptop
in wordprocessing for 6 hours without charger - an hour's
improvement. I wish someone made systems that were less about being
kids' toys.

On 14 Dec, 21:42, Lee Douglas <leerevdoug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Now I'm not one of these anti Apple bods, but it is true that as an IT
> professional I like kit that I can tinker with and that I can make work in
> the ways in which I like to work.  So my biggest hangup with Apple products
> is that you are forced into doing things there way.  And updates, well of
> course you do get them automatically applied as well, and things like
> Itunes, well I'll not tell you how many of my mates have called me up this
> week to ask me to roll back to the previous version for them!
>
> Also, nice to see you Don.
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> On Saturday, 8 December 2012 13:33:34 UTC, Don Johnson wrote:
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> > I'm skittish of upgrades. "If it ain't broke don't fix it" is almost
> > my personal motto. The Mac costs more and lacks some of the software
> > available to the IBM model but imho is worth every extra dollar. Zero
> > issues. Loads faster. No constant downloading of updates for
> > protection and what not.
>
> > MicroSoft is desperate to compete with Apple. They keep rushing
> > unfinished crap to production and it shows. From what I've read the
> > interface for Win8 makes it more like the Mac. New learning is
> > required to utilize the new stuff. Perhaps a good time to switch to
> > Mac if you've ever considered it. It's different but intuitive enough
> > where I think it's easier once you get out of the Windows mindset. Of
> > course, if your programs aren't available on the Mac it would make the
> > switch unadvisable. And then there's the price....
>
> > dj
>
> > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 1:58 AM, archytas <nwt...@gmail.com <javascript:>>
> > wrote:
> > > I finally have my laptop working about 2 weeks after installing W8 as
> > > an upgrade.  I had to use the refresh option.  This uninstalled about
> > > 50 programs, including MS Office, along with my text files and
> > > anything from competitors like Google Chrome.  I may as well have
> > > formatted my hard drive and installed W8 from scratch.  It's
> > > marginally better than W7 now.  Without my back-up I'd have to spend
> > > about £200 to get the programs I actually use back.  I had 2 hours of
> > > pain with Microsoft over Office - which wouldn't let me reinstall from
> > > my genuine disk.  The new version of IE that supplanted my normal
> > > browsers left me cold and I will never learn its new interface.  In
> > > all it's cost me 2 days work and frustration and left me feeling the
> > > thing is intended to get us to spend more money on MS products.
> > > Analysis boils down to a con I could easily do without.  My old fart
> > > prediction on your son is he will learn more about deviant mothering
> > > on the lines of 'A Boy Named Sue' than the tribulations of dotage.  I
> > > shall encode something in cloud cabal to let him know getting old is
> > > crap but does entail a certain freedom from mothers.
>
> > > With England at 332 for two I sorely miss Vam.  I'd explain in great
> > > detail Gabs - but cricket is one secret we have kept from you Germans
> > > since refusing to send professionals to expand the game in your
> > > country in the 1930s.  I have an image of you as the lady chair of the
> > > Deutscher Cricket Bund, ensuring the teas are maintained to the high
> > > standard I found in a small club outside Munich. The potatoes were
> > > particularly excellent, though not as rewarding as my practical
> > > explanation of 'chin music' on the pitch - which led to some jokes on
> > > dueling scars during splendid after-match hospitality.  I'm sure the
> > > game would be safe in your hands and would always return to see the
> > > pigs flying on tandems over the Munich Hills (with are, in fact,
> > > outside Dublin).  Sadly, as an old fart, I am reduced to guile,
> > > deception and soin to get batsmen out these days, before retiring to
> > > the pavilion and endless discussion of bad backs and has-beenery.
>
> > > On Nov 26, 3:50 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Right, which is why one should write an alternative text for the images
> > one
> > >> uses. But the visual stuff helps the un-initiated more than gray XP
> > style
> > >> and code language. My son says he doesn't need W8. For him to be able
> > to
> > >> decode old farts' stories of victimization I'll have to buy the upgrade
> > for
> > >> him.
>
> > >> 2012/11/25 archytas <nwte...@gmail.com>
>
> > >> > I'd still be on dos given the choice too.  I finally have W8 looking
> > >> > like XP and most of the glitches out.  I wouldn't have bothered
> > except
> > >> > for the reasons above.  Lots of this metro, visual stuff makes things
> > >> > much harder for blind people.  I'd go for text-only with a button to
> > >> > play pics and vids.
>
> > >> > On 25 Nov, 09:43, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > > Right now my hands are stuck firmly in my pockets I preferred IBM
> > Dos
> > >> > > over MS dos and only started using had a fantastic email program..
> > >> > > wonder it it is still around..  I fully understand about the barge
> > >> > > pole..  excellent idea..  I am sure your son or grand son will love
> > >> > > it..
> > >> > > Allan
>
> > >> > > On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 12:59 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> > > > Lots of stuff doesn't work - start up and shut down remain dicey,
> > the
> > >> > > > laptop's mousepad doesn't shut down automatically when I plug my
> > mouse
> > >> > > > in - the lis of such annoying bits is long.  Microsoft (after two
> > fob-
> > >> > > > offs) told me to use F8 to do some debugging.  I'd rung to tell
> > them
> > >> > > > F8 didn't work!  I wouldn't touch the thing with a bargepole
> > unless
> > >> > > > you have a commercial reason for needing to.
>
> > >> > > > On 24 Nov, 20:07, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > > >> Actually MS is trying to get control of the gaming market ,,  by
> > >> > > >> getting game programers to set their programs that they only
> > operate
> > >> > > >> on Windows 8
> > >> > > >> Allan
>
> > >> > > >> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 6:21 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> > > >> > W8 looks like yet another attempt to stick us with yet another
> > >> > portal
> > >> > > >> > directing us to Microsoft products - via its metro interface
> > that
> > >> > > >> > replaces desktop.  I don't like Faceflop, Googleplod or
> > Twatter
> > >> > (which
> > >> > > >> > started as a place to host audio podcasts - am amazing
> > non-starter).
> > >> > > >> > The highlight on these over several years was Gabby tagging me
> > as a
> > >> > > >> > rabbit in a weird building in Berlin.
> > >> > > >> > I'm rid of the metroface through a bit of cheap software.  One
> > can
> > >> > > >> > understand why these conglomerates want to shoehorn an
> > advertising-
> > >> > > >> > based business model into our social activities.  These days I
> > watch
> > >> > > >> > all commercial TV via Tivo to fast forward he ads and
> > increasingly
> > >> > do
> > >> > > >> > the same with BBC to evade their promos.  I-google lets me rid
> > >> > myself
> > >> > > >> > of the standard bimbo products of all browsers.  I use gmail
> > in
> > >> > order
> > >> > > >> > not to give out my 'serious' email address.  I guess we
> > essentially
> > >> > > >> > want to freeride on the technical provision.
>
> > >> > > >> > Wikipedia gets stick for not being sufficiently peer-reviewed.
> >  In
> > >> > > >> > terms if the subjects I 'teach' it is more accurate than
> > textbooks
> > >> > and
> > >> > > >> > the material publishers provide if you recommend their texts
> > to
> > >> > > >> > students (it's very difficult not to when 'exams' are based on
> > the
> > >> > rot
> > >> > > >> > - much of which is trashed in wider academic peer review).  A
> > few
> > >> > > >> > academics like Steve Keen (economics and under redundancy
> > threat at
> > >> > > >> > his uni) and Alain de Connes (maths) publish all their work
> > for free
> > >> > > >> > access.  I wish I was in a position to do the same - if I
> > allowed
> > >> > free
> > >> > > >> > access my income would go.
>
> > >> > > >> > In principle I would like Mind's Eye to have wider
> > contribution.
> > >> > > >> > Currently I would say we are open to diversity but actually
> > not
> > >> > > >> > diverse.  But we don't want the SNERTs, trolls, flamers and
> > >> > > >> > advertising.  One can see how we might 'revamp', but
> > everything I've
> > >> > > >> > tried(like new google groups) seems to vapourise continuity.
>
> > >> > > >> > On 24 Nov, 15:47, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > > >> >> Air gunner full of hot air ready to release it quickly -
> > taking
> > >> > care of
> > >> > > >> >> "Minds Eye"! LOL
>
> > >> > > >> >> 2012/11/24 Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
>
> > >> > > >> >> > Air gunner full of hot air ready to release it quickly
>
> > >> > > >> > --
>
> > >> > > >> --
> > >> > > >>  (
> > >> > > >>   )
> > >> > > >> |_D Allan
>
> > >> > > >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>
> > >> > > >> I am a Natural Airgunner -
>
> > >> > > >>  Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.
>
> > >> > > > --
>
> > >> > > --
> > >> > >  (
> > >> > >   )
> > >> > > |_D Allan
>
> > >> > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>
> > >> > > I am a Natural Airgunner -
>
> > >> > >  Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.
>
> > >> > --
>
> > > --

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