Re: Mind's Eye The language of thinking

Thinking can be a process. What is thought- what is said/wrote- what
is meant, for instance. Then if communicating, one depends on the
understanding and mental abilities of the listener/reader. I would
place dance in the general arts but musical theory-notation-
orchestration is a language. But one must consider a symphony superior
to a simple tune as is the case of complex math and language efforts/
reactions. It's a matter of degree.

On Jan 6, 3:18 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We often 'keep things to ourselves' Allan.  I come up with a lot
> internally that I find ineffable.  Thinking is often like a cut-up
> scrapbook of memories in my head - though I've never kept a
> scrapbook.  I often think that language is esoteric - as in recent
> experiments that have created minus absolute Kelvin temperatures that
> are actually higher temperatures than absolute zero - which sounds
> like tosh unless you know the esoteric definition of temperature in
> science as other than what the thermometer reads when stuck in
> something.  One is confronted in explanation with what others don't
> know, one's own ignorance and various gatekeepers, censorships and so
> on - I take these as part of language.  Music and dance, eurhythmics
> and so on play communicative roles - though most I see on offer only
> boredom for me.
>
> On 6 Jan, 17:54, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > what good is thinking if you can not communicate it,
> > Allan
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> > On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 6:33 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > There is still a question as to whether language plays any role in
> > > thinking.
>
> > > On 6 Jan, 15:41, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> This is indeed a very, very complex topic worth discussing and simplifying.
> > >> Help me understand what you are aiming at by telling me whether music and
> > >> dance would also account for languages of thinking. Thanks.
>
> > >> 2013/1/6 andrew vecsey <andrewvec...@gmail.com>
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> > >> > I have written a new chapter to my "Think Park - A Journey thru space and
> > >> > time" publication/video that made me think more about thinking. Whenever I
> > >> > think, I seem to be talking to myself, I can think about something in my
> > >> > memory by imagining and reliving sensations I remember, but whenever I
> > >> > think about those memories, I ultimately revert to talking to my self (up
> > >> > to now, fortunately silently). Do others in this group of thinkers have the
> > >> > same experience? If yes, why do you think that it is like that? If not, how
> > >> > do you manage to think without mentally talking it out? The excerpt of my
> > >> > new chapter that started me thinking about this line of thought is below:
>
> > >> > "Before men could talk, they groaned and grunted.  Just like with crying
> > >> > and laughing, it was sometimes difficult to tell the difference between
> > >> > displays of sorrow and joy, or pain and pleasure.  At the 60 meter point
> > >> > from the start of the think park, about 18,000 years ago, man started to
> > >> > use *words* to display his emotions. Words helped man to think and
> > >> > enabled him to articulate and share his inner most thoughts.  *Pictures
> > >> > and written words* enabled his thoughts and his knowledge to be stored
> > >> > for later contemplation and to be scattered like seed to grow.  This
> > >> > cultivation, communication and sharing of thoughts, knowledge and
> > >> > experience resulted in the growth of *agriculture* that enabled *
> > >> > civilizations* to flourish."
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> > >> > --
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> > --
> >  (
> >   )
> > |_D Allan
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> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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> > Of course I talk to myself,
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