Re: Mind's Eye Motive

I can read english gabby and I do understand it..
Allan

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:52 AM, gabbydott <gabbydott@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please, Allan. YOU are replying in accordance with what YOU understand that
> RP says. The result of long and many years of 'What do YOU think?'
> trainings. Motives are generated by unconscious and conscious factors, along
> the scales of gratification and avoidance of suffering - for ourselves and
> our environment.
>
> 2013/1/2 Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com>
>>
>> According to what you have said in the past you have no freedom or
>> latitude at all in you activities it is all dictated to you by the god
>> in which you believe..
>>
>> Just what are you looking for?? some one to say that you have
>> permission to believe some thing else.. then you have my permission
>> and blessing.. but I do not think that is what you want,, I think
>> you are simply trying to justify your beliefs.. for me you do not
>> have to do that .. you can believe as you want..
>>
>> Oh well discussions with you go no where,,
>> Allan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:31 PM, RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Psychologists say that a person's conscious motives are not the real
>> > determinants of behavior but one's real motives lie in the unconscious
>> > and
>> > one is not aware of them. A person who is obsessed with cleanliness is
>> > ostensibly a very clean person but in reality he has strong instinctive
>> > sex
>> > drive which get repressed as he cannot accept them.
>> > The question is that are we to judge ourselves or judged by others for
>> > our
>> > behavior by the conscious motives or the repressed unconscious motives ?
>> > Clearly we cannot be judged for factors of which we are not even aware
>> > even
>> > though they are the real determinants of our actions.
>> > The question now arises of our will , is our will free ? Consciously we
>> > are
>> > free , we think and act as we want , we can open or close our hand
>> > freely.
>> > So , we have freedom of choice , and if our will is bound by unconscious
>> > determinants we cannot be held accountable for them. If unconsciously we
>> > are
>> > selfish and consciously generous , it is our generosity for which we can
>> > be
>> > judged and not the unconscious motive. So , the phantom of Bondage
>> > evaporates into thin air !
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> (
>> )
>> |_D Allan
>>
>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>>
>> Of course I talk to myself,
>> Sometimes I need expert advice..
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
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>
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> 2013/1/2 Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com>
>>
>> According to what you have said in the past you have no freedom or
>> latitude at all in you activities it is all dictated to you by the god
>> in which you believe..
>>
>> Just what are you looking for?? some one to say that you have
>> permission to believe some thing else.. then you have my permission
>> and blessing.. but I do not think that is what you want,, I think
>> you are simply trying to justify your beliefs.. for me you do not
>> have to do that .. you can believe as you want..
>>
>> Oh well discussions with you go no where,,
>> Allan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:31 PM, RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Psychologists say that a person's conscious motives are not the real
>> > determinants of behavior but one's real motives lie in the unconscious
>> > and
>> > one is not aware of them. A person who is obsessed with cleanliness is
>> > ostensibly a very clean person but in reality he has strong instinctive
>> > sex
>> > drive which get repressed as he cannot accept them.
>> > The question is that are we to judge ourselves or judged by others for
>> > our
>> > behavior by the conscious motives or the repressed unconscious motives ?
>> > Clearly we cannot be judged for factors of which we are not even aware
>> > even
>> > though they are the real determinants of our actions.
>> > The question now arises of our will , is our will free ? Consciously we
>> > are
>> > free , we think and act as we want , we can open or close our hand
>> > freely.
>> > So , we have freedom of choice , and if our will is bound by unconscious
>> > determinants we cannot be held accountable for them. If unconsciously we
>> > are
>> > selfish and consciously generous , it is our generosity for which we can
>> > be
>> > judged and not the unconscious motive. So , the phantom of Bondage
>> > evaporates into thin air !
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> (
>> )
>> |_D Allan
>>
>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>>
>> Of course I talk to myself,
>> Sometimes I need expert advice..
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>
>
>



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|_D Allan

Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.

Of course I talk to myself,
Sometimes I need expert advice..

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