Mind's Eye Re: Madness and Sanity

http://wer.worldeconomicsassociation.org/article/view/37

I'm guessing the criminal model might tell us more Molly. When even
something like microfinance goes as horribly wrong as the link
suggests I wonder what it is that makes us spot criminality and
madness. Dorner reminds me (a bit) of the morality crash I saw in a
management buy out years ago. In grand principle he has probably done
less than we manage with drone attack - but the grey-shading of 'dirty
hands' doesn't enter his case. We can see he's a murderer and
probably paranoid-narcissist. We seem to lack such clarity with much
else going on and I'm not sure it really is that difficult.

On Feb 10, 3:26 pm, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not sure criminal behavior is a gauge, as much as a symptom of a
> multitude of disorders.  I've met many narcissistic sociopaths who are
> adept at taking it right to the edge of illegal or what case can be
> won in court (or in the workplace, HR), and do a great deal of damage
> operating like that.  They continue, as you say, because of our
> tendency to look away from what is uncomfortable instead of having
> those difficult conversations to see problems through to a conclusion
> where everyone wins and no one loses.  Losers make sure other people
> lose.  They often don't see that they, themselves are losing.
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> On Feb 10, 9:36 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >http://youranonnews.tumblr.com/post/42506354980/heres-an-uncensored-c...
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> > Christopher Dorner the former LAPD officer gone rogue is clearly mad
> > if the link above is his work.  There's a persecution complex and he
> > wanders off into statements about public figures as though they'd give
> > a toss on his opinion.  The probably squalid murders he's committed
> > are somehow justified in a messy story of himself as public avenger.
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> > My own view of the world is probably more extreme than Dorner's.  I
> > don't believe we get much right in our organisations and I'm sure we
> > suffer from collective madness and denial in most of our dealings with
> > each other.  I don't believe that the vast majority of our cops,
> > nurses and so on are hard working and generally do the right thing -
> > rather most people don't care much and spend an awful lot of time
> > 'looking the other way'.  The truth is that most of our complaints'
> > systems don't work and were designed not to.  The kind of evidence of
> > what I'm saying here is the Hillsborough Report - this demonstrates
> > that rather than standing up for truth, pretty much every cop lied and
> > the public was mislead for more than 20 years.  Nurses are leaving
> > patients who can't fend for themselves lying in their own mess and
> > even worse.  Abused children are left with abusers.  What really
> > convinces me we are getting almost everything wrong is an absence of
> > real statistical reasoning - what we get is performance management
> > (juking) and promises lessons are being learned that last until the
> > next serious incident comes to light - when the promise is used again.
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> > I wonder what separates me from sad/bad jerks like Dorner?  I don't
> > kill people and wouldn't, much as I liked the film, dream of doing
> > Dirty Harry - the evidence is rarely clear enough.  The truth is
> > usually banal and even dull.  I can't work out how I know Dorner is a
> > clown and yet believe police complaints systems are hapless and cover
> > a multitude of sins.  I know most whistleblowers face dreadful
> > smearing, but this guy is out of it.  John Kiriakou seems sane and the
> > US finally mad in sending him to jail and making Brennan head of CIA.
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> > How do we gauge madness and sanity?

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