Re: Mind's Eye Re: Green Issues (might make some 'green')

I know recycling has to become a major part of our world and life

On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:05 AM, gabbydott <gabbydott@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not sure what exactly I'm replying to, because I do believe seeking mutually
> beneficial outcomes is a good thing. The way that 'mutually' is achieved or
> generated is the problematic aspect in my view.
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> 2013/2/26 James <ashkashal@gmail.com>
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>> I've been wondering, what was scary about seeking mutually beneficial
>> outcomes gabby? Seems I'm a master at the failed followup. :p
>>
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>> On 2/25/2013 2:40 PM, gabbydott wrote:
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>> Oh, yes, that's of course a good point!
>>
>>
>> 2013/2/25 archytas <nwterry@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> We have large scale versions in the UK - the muck is treated and
>>> pathogens removed. It was once called night soil here. Quite what
>>> precautions are taken in India is a bit scary. My point largely
>>> concerns the possibility of a 40% fertiliser reduction and how many
>>> more examples could be drawn into an economic plan. Fishing gear is
>>> being changed to do less damage to the sea bed and reduce the
>>> ludicrous amount of stock dumped at sea because it doesn't match rules
>>> on what can be landed - pilot projects have reduced 'throw back' from
>>> 37% to less than one.
>>>
>>> On 25 Feb, 11:12, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Interesting. I've had this issue categorized under "the fresh water
>>> > waste
>>> > in toilets". There are some much greener solutions on the market.
>>> >
>>> > 2013/2/25 rigs <rigs...@gmail.com>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > Isn't this called "night soil"- no pun intended. What about the
>>> > > spreading of disease via human/animal waste?
>>> >
>>> > > On Feb 24, 1:43 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > > You produce some 500 litres of urine and 50 kilograms of faeces a
>>> > > > year. Besides the water and organic carbon, your annual output
>>> > > > contains around 10 kilograms of nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium
>>> > > > compounds, the three main nutrients plants need to grow - helpfully
>>> > > > in
>>> > > > roughly the correct proportions. This is sufficient to fertilise
>>> > > > plants that would produce more than 200 kilograms of cereals, says
>>> > > > Christine Werner of the German development agency GIZ.
>>> >
>>> > > > Scale that up and the world's population excretes 70 million tonnes
>>> > > > of
>>> > > > nutrients annually. Applied to fields, this could replace almost 40
>>> > > > per cent of the 176 million tonnes of nutrients in chemical
>>> > > > fertilisers used by the world's farmers in 2011 - from New
>>> > > > Scientist.
>>> >
>>> > > > There are loads of ways to redeploy human waste - from planting a
>>> > > > banana tree so it roots under the latrine hut to large sewage
>>> > > > treatment (an entrepreneurial solution can be found in India - they
>>> > > > are know locally as honey-suckers). I wonder how any such areas we
>>> > > > could identify and get into action projects under an international
>>> > > > project system run on an enterprise basis?
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