Re: Mind's Eye Re: Green Issues (might make some 'green')

It could also be called Facelift!

On Feb 27, 4:59 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's just not fair Al - I always wanted to cry all the way to the
> bank!  Maybe we should petition the young jerk running Faceflop and
> impress him with out credentials - turning silk purses into sows'
> ears, the negative Kelvin temperature of our customer service and
> other assets we bring to maximising tax loses whilst simultaneously
> stacking piles of hard currency offshore?  Given the job we could hire
> Gabby's friend to do the books on double time (she'd do the bird for
> both of us later) ...
>
> On Feb 27, 8:51 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Sorry Neil those tax breaks are for the super rich..  poor people like
> > you and me have to pay our taxes..
>
> > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:16 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I never settle in long enough to be under-paid Gabs - I move on before
> > > I could be barely competent to whoever is dumb enough to pay more for
> > > my next period of incompetence.  Your friend has made the mistake of
> > > learning how to competently do the job.  Does she not know the
> > > relationship between productivity and wages is inverse - ergo one
> > > should not be productive and spend one's time looking for the next
> > > employer not to be productive with.  That the employers bring this on
> > > themselves is apparent in your friend's sad tale.  Self-employed these
> > > days, I no longer fear the sack should I spend enough time in one
> > > place to be discovered inept (as I am a tolerant employer who realises
> > > any deficiencies I have are down to a lack of training) and dare to
> > > visit the same work place twice after reasonable gaps in which they
> > > have forgotten I was there before.  Does your friend do freelance -
> > > I'm looking for someone good and cheap!  I'd even pay time and a third
> > > if she gets me Faceflop's tax concession ($450 million rebate).
>
> > > On 27 Feb, 16:08, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> I am sure Gabby your friend is highly accurate at her job or employment..
> > >> I never realized the soil loss until I was driving truck across mid
> > >> west in the US..   there you can see a 16 cm difference between the
> > >> fence line and the crop surface,,  thus difference is from the crops
> > >> removing soil matter from the land.  This loss needs to be replaced.
> > >> and that can be very difficult to do..  if your friend is saying the
> > >> soil does not need supplements  she can be right ass it can be quite
> > >> rich..  believe me if you are farming you have soil loss due to plants
> > >> using up the resources.  the long you wait the more difficult it
> > >> becomes..  even in my flower garden I replace approximately 4 cm every
> > >> year..
>
> > >> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:41 AM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > First, Allan, my friend is my friend, who happens to be earning her living
> > >> > by doing her employer's book-keeping. Secondly, the books are never
> > >> > officially out of balance, even when being checked by the finance office,
> > >> > because she is doing the book-keeping and not her boss. And yes, her wage
> > >> > amount has been forgotten to be dynamically integrated into that forever
> > >> > cyclic process for more than 10 years. But this is not his fault, this is
> > >> > hers. Is it not?
>
> > >> > 2013/2/27 Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
>
> > >> >> Gabby your accountant friend deeds to examine his books  as is
> > >> >> forgetting to add in some of his credits like the amount of soil the
> > >> >> plant uses to grow and is not replaced when we harvest that crop.. in
> > >> >> other words his books are out of balance.
>
> > >> >> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:57 PM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> > Looking far and big is one option of going  beyond common sense
> > >> >> > limitations.
> > >> >> > My best friend does that on a much smaller scale for her employer and
> > >> >> > his
> > >> >> > different companies by doing his book-keeping. Their well-being is
> > >> >> > firmly
> > >> >> > rooted in  interdependency already, no further soil improvement is
> > >> >> > needed to
> > >> >> > mix the balance up.
>
> > >> >> > 2013/2/26 archytas <nwte...@gmail.com>
>
> > >> >> >> Stuff from the UK plants goes to farms - soil improvement.  I sense
> > >> >> >> there is plenty of money that could go into such schemes. Despite $1.1
> > >> >> >> billion in pre-tax profits from its US operations in 2012, Facebook
> > >> >> >> didn't pay any federal or state income taxes in the US—in fact it will
> > >> >> >> collect net tax refunds totaling $429 million (owing to some stock
> > >> >> >> option dodge).
>
> > >> >> >> On 26 Feb, 14:59, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >> > Ah, I see that the English language definitely needs an update for us
> > >> >> >> > to
> > >> >> >> > be
> > >> >> >> > able to communicate at - at least - nose level. What you call 'waste
> > >> >> >> > trade'
> > >> >> >> > and ' trade of recyclables' we call 'Wertstoffhandel', which
> > >> >> >> > literally
> > >> >> >> > translates, no not 'resource trade', but 'trading with substances of
> > >> >> >> > value'.
>
> > >> >> >> > 2013/2/26 Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
>
> > >> >> >> > > I know recycling has to become a major part of our world and life
>
> > >> >> >> > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:05 AM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com>
> > >> >> >> > > wrote:
> > >> >> >> > > > Not sure what exactly I'm replying to, because I do believe
> > >> >> >> > > > seeking
> > >> >> >> > > mutually
> > >> >> >> > > > beneficial outcomes is a good thing. The way that 'mutually' is
> > >> >> >> > > achieved or
> > >> >> >> > > > generated is the problematic aspect in my view.
>
> > >> >> >> > > > 2013/2/26 James <ashkas...@gmail.com>
>
> > >> >> >> > > >> I've been wondering, what was scary about seeking mutually
> > >> >> >> > > >> beneficial
> > >> >> >> > > >> outcomes gabby? Seems I'm a master at the failed followup. :p
>
> > >> >> >> > > >> On 2/25/2013 2:40 PM, gabbydott wrote:
>
> > >> >> >> > > >> Oh, yes, that's of course a good point!
>
> > >> >> >> > > >> 2013/2/25 archytas <nwte...@gmail.com>
>
> > >> >> >> > > >>> We have large scale versions in the UK - the muck is treated
> > >> >> >> > > >>> and
> > >> >> >> > > >>> pathogens removed.  It was once called night soil here.  Quite
> > >> >> >> > > >>> what
> > >> >> >> > > >>> precautions are taken in India is a bit scary.  My point
> > >> >> >> > > >>> largely
> > >> >> >> > > >>> concerns the possibility of a 40% fertiliser reduction and how
> > >> >> >> > > >>> many
> > >> >> >> > > >>> more examples could be drawn into an economic plan.  Fishing
> > >> >> >> > > >>> gear
> > >> >> >> > > >>> is
> > >> >> >> > > >>> being changed to do less damage to the sea bed and reduce the
> > >> >> >> > > >>> ludicrous amount of stock dumped at sea because it doesn't
> > >> >> >> > > >>> match
> > >> >> >> > > >>> rules
> > >> >> >> > > >>> on what can be landed - pilot projects have reduced 'throw
> > >> >> >> > > >>> back'
> > >> >> >> > > >>> from
> > >> >> >> > > >>> 37% to less than one.
>
> > >> >> >> > > >>> On 25 Feb, 11:12, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > Interesting. I've had this issue categorized under "the fresh
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > water
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > waste
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > in toilets". There are some much greener solutions on the
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > market.
>
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > 2013/2/25 rigs <rigs...@gmail.com>
>
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > Isn't this called "night soil"- no pun intended. What about
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > the
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > spreading of disease via human/animal waste?
>
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > On Feb 24, 1:43 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > You produce some 500 litres of urine and 50 kilograms of
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > faecesa
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > year. Besides the water and organic carbon, your annual
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > output
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > contains around 10 kilograms of nitrogen, phosphorus and
> > >> >> >> > > potassium
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > compounds, the three main nutrients plants need to grow -
> > >> >> >> > > helpfully
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > in
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > roughly the correct proportions. This is sufficient to
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > fertilise
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > plants that would produce more than 200 kilograms of
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > cereals,
> > >> >> >> > > says
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > Christine Werner of the German development agency GIZ.
>
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > Scale that up and the world's population excretes 70
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > million
> > >> >> >> > > tonnes
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > of
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > nutrients annually. Applied to fields, this could replace
> > >> >> >> > > almost 40
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > per cent of the 176 million tonnes of nutrients in
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > chemical
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > fertilisers used by the world's farmers in 2011 - from
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > New
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > Scientist.
>
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > There are loads of ways to redeploy human waste - from
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > planting a
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > banana tree so it roots under the latrine hut to large
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > sewage
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > treatment (an entrepreneurial solution can be found in
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > India
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > -
> > >> >> >> > > they
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > are know locally as honey-suckers).  I wonder how any
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > such
> > >> >> >> > > areas we
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > could identify and get into action projects under an
> > >> >> >> > > international
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > > project system run on an enterprise basis?
>
> > >> >> >> > > >>> > > --
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