Re: Mind's Eye Re: Something Allan Said

Well Rigsy Employers need to pay a living wage.. Employers do not have
the right to harm others by stealing labor.

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 3:06 PM, rigs <rigs117@gmail.com> wrote:
> I doubt you can dictate to an employer who pays you what it is that
> will make you happy in your work. It's his money. Otherwise strike out
> on your own.
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> On Feb 22, 8:03 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Some time back Allan said (more or less) 'everything is a point of
>> view' - very Nietzsche - but also science. A bloke called Myrdal was
>> arguing such in the 50's.
>>
>> I'm jaded by academic argument. After a while the major feeling it
>> leaves me with is how self-serving it is and how excluding it is. You
>> can end up in the sanctimonious position of 'wishing everyone else
>> would get up to speed on learning'. Nearly all academic argument is
>> sterile and corrupt. The promises remind me of 'religion for dupes',
>> promising pre-supposition-less states and varieties of 'objectivity'
>> that cannot be achieved much like salvation. Much of the
>> argumentation ends up with suck-egg assertions we should look at the
>> human world as about "power". The only pre-supposition-less humans
>> I've met weren't breathing. None of the ones alive were objective
>> (this includes all scientists and my view of myself as one) - but some
>> met lower criteria like being fair, decent, tactfully honest and
>> prepared to give the other an even break, hospitable, generous ...
>>
>> Allan is right - but perspectivalism leaves us with choices between
>> perspectives. In science we have given up on phlogiston theory and
>> astronomy (despite internal consistency) and have a big record that
>> can be read and followed in practice much as we might do cooking,
>> gardening and so on following books and mother's-knee experience as we
>> go along (this is the tropical fish version of scientific practice).
>>
>> What we are taught at school is largely about supplication - to be
>> able to convince employers we are employable, reliable, malleable to
>> their interests - much academic argument is supplication - the writing
>> has much in common with dress codes. Various closed circles reference
>> holy scrolls, occasionally arguing the toss on what the prophet
>> actually meant.
>>
>> I'm for de-schooling and the removal of debt-burdening education - we
>> need to get back to work and learning by living with each other. I
>> think most of the best academics would prefer that to the current
>> parasitic cloisters. Given current technology we could ask people
>> what they want to do. I see no sign of that.
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