Re: Mind's Eye Re: An Icon Dies

True. You just have to mulch them, weed them, feed and water them,
deadhead them, cut back, etc. while fending off bees and mosquitos!
What a deal!

On Apr 26, 2:13 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> flower gardens are much better you do not have to mow them.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:38 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Winter is flickering out here, more slowly in the North.  Strange
> > yellow object seen in sky etc.  Cold and windy today walking Maxwell.
> > An old guy watching us said I'd finally invented the Labrador non-
> > retriever.  I said I'd specially trained Max to leave his ball to
> > encourage me to walk further.  Good to hear you are getting better
> > rigs.  Better get your tooth fixed before Gabby flies over with her
> > dentists' drill and acupuncture anesthetics kit!!  Though maybe not -
> > the Germans are repatriating their gold.
>
> > Thatcher is famed here in the UK for stopping our children's free
> > milk.  Actually, she was responsible for much greater cruelty in
> > preventing milk-aid to Vietnam.  Looking through lists of PMs and
> > Presidents I'm not sure I can say any of them did anything better than
> > stepping down.  I think we might be better off with leadership by open
> > examination and lot.  My experience with it was always to hope it was
> > occupied somewhere else and that when I actually needed decision
> > support it was on holiday after sending pre-denial messages buried
> > three levels down in my emails.  I always found getting welders to
> > work in the rain so a few hundred shipyard workers standing idle could
> > get on with work that couldn't start before the welders finished a
> > fair test of leadership.  It taught you to project manage better so it
> > never happened again!
>
> > Grass needs cutting.  Max hasn't met the mower yet!  I wonder what
> > crosses the Pond?  Thatcher is pretty reviled here, but we're still a
> > soft touch on Obama.
>
> > On Apr 26, 3:15 am, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Not me- I don't romanticize it.
>
> > > I wonder how many feel some shame and responsibility for the sweat-
> > > shop-fire-traps of Bangladesh and other third world countries when
> > > they buy their bargains at Primark, Walmart, Target, and perhaps many
> > > private labels?
>
> > > It's also been said that Jenny Jerome's father was Jewish. Read a
> > > maybe two volume biography. Think I have mentioned her fatal tumble
> > > down a flight of stairs when her new heel broke and younger husbands,
> > > etc. Quite a dash-about, she was.
>
> > > Our soldiers are also committing suicide at an alaming rate.
>
> > > Your sports are sometimes like a dance- it depends. Dance and drama
> > > may have started with men who seem to go on ad nauseum- more so than
> > > women, who have other flaws and faults.
>
> > > Am recovering nicely after convincing my eye dr. how to medicate
> > > me. :-) Why should I take as many pills as a bruiser 6'+ weighing 200+
> > > when I am 5'3" and 120? Doesn't make sense. The snows have melted-
> > > warm this weekend. Hooray! Thanks again to all for your good wishes.
>
> > > On Apr 25, 4:21 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > In short we are living in the past.
>
> > > > On 25 Apr, 18:19, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Churchill was half American - nuff said Don!  I hoped Thatcher would
> > > > > be real change - but this dream is always rubbish - look at Obama.
> > > > > Oliver Stone did The Untold American History recently - it turned out
> > > > > not to be news to me, but we have forgotten how much sentiment there
> > > > > was towards the end of WW2 about job guarantee and a democratic world
> > > > > (Henry Wallace, generally unknown here, was the heart of it).  The
> > > > > debate had been had here at the end of WW1 - E D Morel unseated
> > > > > Churchill in Dundee.
>
> > > > > I think democracy is dead.  I suspect many of us worry about this
> > > > > across the old political spectrum.  The left is haunted by Soviet
> > > > > Paradise and now the right faces much the same with the banksters and
> > > > > crony capitalism - the shadow politburo.  Most of us want government
> > > > > off our backs and probably think it's better to be able to vote for
> > > > > what we want.  But let's face it, Plato couldn't resolve the
> > > > > corruption problem in seven books and didn't notice slavery was
> > > > > wrong.  I suspect Hayek and Popper would have disliked Thatcher -
> > they
> > > > > were anti-convictionist.   I dislike the road to serfdom whether by
> > > > > Soviet or global wage arbitrage.  I don't share rigs' views above now
> > > > > - but I did until a few years ago.
>
> > > > > On the young Gabby, there is no talking to teenagers (scientifically)
> > > > > and peer influence is at its greatest.  Quite why humans specialise
> > in
> > > > > this extended period of painful childishness I don't know.  I favour
> > > > > doing them as little damage as possible and don't think debt peonage
> > > > > by extending childhood to 21 is appropriate.  I doubt people can stay
> > > > > honest in leadership or politics without transparency and a system in
> > > > > which they return to 'ordinary' status.
>
> > > > > So how do we do transparent in a dirty old world?  In games of
> > > > > negotiation, undergraduate teams always chose the strategy that shits
> > > > > on the other group - presumably thinking the other group can't work
> > > > > out the simple rules.  Accounting, just at the point when technology
> > > > > could make the process transparent, accounts in a manner of
> > > > > obfuscation  We are all being told our countries should be
> > innovative,
> > > > > competitive, thrusting, vibrant (endless list) to be better than all
> > > > > others in "free trade".  The spreadsheet could start instead with
> > > > > world-wide standards on wages and conditions.  Rigs may rightly say
> > > > > scientists haven't fixed us but no doubt doesn't have dreams about
> > > > > moving as a four-dimensional space shifting in two dimensions of
> > > > > time.  Is the experiment of decent living standards for all and an
> > > > > economics that adjusts to that beyond us rigs?  We can simulate -
> > > > > which is what spreadsheets and databases are about.  From my
> > practical
> > > > > experience I'd expect bunches of men with guns to be an early
> > problem,
> > > > > along with black-baggers and on to the megalomaniac paranoid
> > > > > narcissist versions of that North Korean prat in our own systems.
> > > > > With mosquito nets to give away in Africa the first problem was
> > > > > stopping black bandits stealing them - or so I thought until I found
> > > > > my own team had cornered a black market in them.  Further up the tree
> > > > > you find the bribes, tenders accepted at "cost plus" and suspect the
> > > > > kickbacks reach white pockets.  We can stop this kind of thing and
> > > > > choose not to.  Those who learn science come to realise most people
> > > > > don't have the courage for it - but not quite what this implies about
> > > > > social organisation and the role of terror in it.  Unemployment is
> > > > > such a terror for some they commit suicide.  Suicide is almost a way
> > > > > of life for Indian farmers (250,000 in the last ten years or so).
> > > > > What has WW3 meant for the women of Congo?  Economics and politics
> > > > > should be a war against terror.  They ain't and rely on its
> > > > > continuance.
>
> > > > > On 25 Ap -r, 11:33, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Make power relations visible from the beginning on, is what I
> > suggest. And
> > > > > > start with positioning yourself in whatever frame that is under
> > discussion.
> > > > > > Educated voters do not pop up by flipping the age switch. Sending
> > kids out
> > > > > > at the age of 14 to have them experience how power relations also
> > work
> > > > > > outside family and school is an easy way of keeping my hands
> > clean. - A re
> > > > > > view from/at the grassroots.
>
> > > > > > 2013/4/24 rigs <rigs...@gmail.com>
>
> > > > > > > We need less sentimentality re our elections- they have become
> > > > > > > popularity contests sprinkled with celebrities, media bias,
> > appeal to
> > > > > > > base or selfish interests, etc. We also need serious, educated
> > voters
> > > > > > > which diminishes with universal sufferage and all the axes
> > grinding
> > > > > > > away. I do think there are honest people concerned about the
> > general
> > > > > > > welfare. Another correction should be term limits. The general
> > disgust
> > > > > > > with politicians is widespread but we get the government we
> > deserve or
> > > > > > > settle for. Would private wealth guarantee an honest politician
> > or
> > > > > > > would power be just as corrupting. (You could also rant about
> > > > > > > scientists who have thus far failed to cure the ills of
> > humanity.)
>
> > > > > > > On Apr 23, 3:57 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > which one Molly?  It seems the day of the honest politician
> > that put the
> > > > > > > > nation above private interest is dead, gone and buried.. It is
> > not to
> > > > > > > late
> > > > > > > > to save the economy but that will not happen as long as they
> > can line
> > > > > > > thir
> > > > > > > > pockets with gold.. and if there is an honest politician they
> > throw so
> > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > > money agaist them it is impossible to win.
>
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Roosevelt, Roosevelt, waitin' on Roosevelt.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Apr 22, 9:21 am, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > He forgot Roosevelt. And the generals/admirals who knew
> > how many
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > be killed in advance. My- such a cutthroat world.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Apr 21, 4:12 pm, Don Johnson <daj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > My goodness you've lumped Churchill in with some
> > disreputable
> > > > > > > > > characters
> > > > > > > > > > > haven't you Archy? I knew most of y'all wouldn't have
> > cared for her
> > > > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > > > > much
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