Re: Mind's Eye Re: deep thought

You need basic skills to begin with, however, and these are only as
successful as certain other qualities/opportunities are present or
attainable. Morality is generally picked up from family, tribe,
nation, religion, political theory. There are plenty of examples of
evil or poor choices made by popular consent/majority opinion. What is
the ultimate purpose of education? Wisdom? Income? Etc.?

On May 9, 4:11 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What Neil says is that all learning is self taught - and so you are always
> successful. The question here is what you learn. The moral that you acquire
> while learning sans systematique is definitely more difficult to justify,
> yes.
>
> 2013/5/9 Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> > Interesting the self taught often succeed..  could be it seems what they
> > do not learn appearantly is morality  or how to justify their actions..
>
> > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:20 AM, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> I don't know either work referred to but not sure society could
> >> tolerate this kind of freedom in education or workplace with a few
> >> exceptions. Funny, but the self-taught often succeed. Anyway, society
> >> needs to control its education and workplaces- esp. since the
> >> Industrial Revolution. Another thought is the object of work<education
> >> is often just about money though many are dedicated to ideals and
> >> service and money is an afterthought or nevermind.
>
> >> On May 7, 1:46 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > The short story is as Gabby remembers.  20 years ago I ran a module
> >> > called Creative Organisational Practices.  The essential choice for
> >> > students was to study the comparative relevance of Enid Blyton
> >> > (children's stories) and 'In Search of Excellence' to management
> >> > practice (both clearly fictional) or do something "creative" to stop
> >> > me lecturing on this and do something they invented.  That might be
> >> > education.
>
> >> > On 7 May, 08:42, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > thank you  it is starting to make sense now
>
> >> > > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > oh  to many drugs,,I guess epilepsy medications have severe side
> >> effects
>
> >> > > > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:33 AM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > > >> Search for the word on the group site and you will find older
> >> contexts in
> >> > > >> which the word has been used. As far as I remember Neil introduced
> >> it,
> >> > > >> sketching up education as being super male in its ejaculation
> >> orientation
> >> > > >> and super female in its child minding orientation. Truth for
> >> Dummies.
>
> >> > > >> 2013/5/7 Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
>
> >> > > >>> sorry Neil Ejukation is a word i cannot find ..  as a result I am
> >> not
> >> > > >>> sure what you are saying..
>
> >> > > >>> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:02 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > > >>>> Ejukation is basically child-minding - we give the little dears
> >> easy
> >> > > >>>> things to do so we can praise them.  The ones too stupid to
> >> realise
> >> > > >>>> its all rubbish and bail out early end up with the biggest debts
> >> - all
> >> > > >>>> very meritocratic!  The world would work rather well on a 2-day
> >> week.
> >> > > >>>> The ejukationist's job is to stop people realising this, the
> >> classroom
> >> > > >>>> the straight-jacket through which we get people used to not
> >> doing what
> >> > > >>>> they want to.
>
> >> > > >>>> On 6 May, 10:50, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > >>>> > knowledge is enlightenment --  spiritual enlightenment  ---
> >>  well
> >> > > >>>> there are
> >> > > >>>> > more ideas and ramblings people call enlightened..    at least
> >> > > >>>> > a enlightened carpenter the enlightenment will show up in his
> >> work.
>
> >> > > >>>> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:13 AM, gabbydott <
> >> gabbyd...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >>>> wrote:
> >> > > >>>> > > We used to view what I think you are describing through the
> >> > > >>>> 'Wissen' -
> >> > > >>>> > > 'Können' glasses. The spiritual dimension needed the right
> >> > > >>>> justification
> >> > > >>>> > > and calibration of both. We now ask if you:
> >> > > >>>> > > know-that/know-about/know-how/know-why/know-what.
>
> >> > > >>>> > > 2013/5/6 Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
>
> >> > > >>>> > >> there are many forms of enlightenment.. a skilled carpenter
> >> can be
> >> > > >>>> > >> enlightened on crafting wood.. a nurse can be enlightened
> >> on caring
> >> > > >>>> > >> for patients  . . .   there are many different forms of
> >> > > >>>> enlightenment..
> >> > > >>>> > >> spiritual enlightenment is perhaps the most confusing of all
> >> > > >>>> knowledge..
>
> >> > > >>>> > >> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:01 AM, gabbydott <
> >> gabbyd...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >>>> wrote:
>
> >> > > >>>> > >>> Of course a more figurative light is being meant! The
> >> trouble
> >> > > >>>> remains
> >> > > >>>> > >>> the same. "Enlightenment" is the word. The context makes it
> >> > > >>>> 'Aufklärung' or
> >> > > >>>> > >>> 'Erleuchtung', light particle or light wave.
>
> >> > > >>>> > >>> 2013/5/6 James <ashkas...@gmail.com>
>
> >> > > >>>> > >>>> Hello Konara, rigsy, all. I am wondering if this is a more
> >> > > >>>> figurative
> >> > > >>>> > >>>> 'light'..? In the sense that it illuminates the world and
> >> allows
> >> > > >>>> a greater
> >> > > >>>> > >>>> understanding and mastery of things, I mean.
>
> >> > > >>>> > >>>> Spring is in the air. :)
>
> >> > > >>>> > >>>> On 5/5/2013 1:10 AM, rigs wrote:
>
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>> Pardon my late welcome. Why not refine instead of tame
> >> the
> >> > > >>>> senses?
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>> They are also gifts.
>
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>> On Apr 28, 10:46 pm, Konara Abeyrathne <
> >> kona...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >>>> wrote:
>
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>> training or developing our mind is not that difficult
> >> or easy.
> >> > > >>>> mind is
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>> a very active and naughty sense .onlything we have to
> >> tame
> >> > > >>>> other
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>> senses,concentrate on the function of the mind through
> >> the
> >> > > >>>> "MIND EYE'"
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>> itself. and engage in trancedental meditation.  this
> >> you have
> >> > > >>>> to
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>> start and
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>> continue until you see a bright light in your mind try
> >> and see
> >> > > >>>> pl   I
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>> am
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>> abeyratne from Kandy Sri Lanka
>
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:08 AM, rigs <
> >> rigs...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >>>> wrote:
>
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Someone recently mentioned Socrates was alarmed with
> >> the
> >> > > >>>> popularity
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> of
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> writing as he felt it would weaken the memory. I
> >> thought it
> >> > > >>>> lovely
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> that the ancient bards trained their minds like a
> >> house of
> >> > > >>>> many rooms
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> and storied them.
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> On Apr 28, 7:27 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> No idea mate.  Deep Thought was the computer that
> >> couldn't
> >> > > >>>> answer
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> the
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> question and thus commissioned a bigger one to find
> >> the
> >> > > >>>> question.
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> On 28 Apr, 21:51, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> --
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>   (
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>    )
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> |_D Allan
> >> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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