Re: Mind's Eye money question

Heh, did you switch envy and resentment around Rigs? Kidding with you,
but you may be onto something. In my older years I've gotten a chance to
expand my acquaintanceships to include the more hawklike
peacocks/roosters and have noticed a parallel to the jugular glamor in
prestige of affluence. A repartite sqoundrel no doubt is the name I'd
know if I opened my mouth today, there were more banal terms for it more
appropriate than 'hypocrisy'. They were all meaningless to me anyways, I
can count on one hand a few times I said 'Hey!' with added pulp fiction
vernacular, a little humorous that it was the same notice in every
instance. My fiancee is the only one who knows me to have humor and I do
impressions of things she hears about or we see in movies while
explaining a little on where I'm from, that I hide at all other times
behind stoicism. Not to betray the strong and quiet, that's in there, he
just feels like laughing sometimes. They don't put the real funny stuff
on tv, it's really weak compared to reality and Chris Rock is tame
relying on racial shock (I consider him a half-funny ass, but I like the
movie Shrek). Like what a girl shouts across the auditorium holding
another's hair that drops everyone gasping for air in laughter
dispatching with whatever lunch was midswallow, or another one cussing
out a John who wanted credit all the way down the block, a teacher
flipping out on us. I felt bad for the teachers, even if they were
clueless. They were barking up the wrong tree when interviewing certain
troubled teens after Columbine, people would've done better to pull
their heads out of wherever. All my friends are survivalist, I grew up
around guns and black markets, played the heck out of Doom, the Jolly
Roger cookbook was toilet reading material but I enjoyed reading
philosophy, and any Popular Mechanics or science material I could find.
In terms of judgement it means nothing, but hearing people's thoughts is
very rewarding, including yours. I lost my point somewhere. If I find
it, I'm sure it will be very relevant to the classes. :p

Genetic inequality seems a faux pas but I think it has an influence on
developing skill and intelligence of sorts, and no doubt also in how one
meets the multitude of influences pushing the genes into activation and
adaptation. IMO the distribution of trait-wise acuity should be about
even, with the exception of cognitive and psychological disorders. It
seems certain emotional deficiencies can under the right circumstances
lead to successful outcomes (financially that is), but under others lead
to more apparent disaster. Cultural values and myth come into play for
sure in how that is levied. I'd take an arrogant industrialist any day
over a megalo-sociopath bent on vengeance but that doesn't mean I'll be
blind to the likelihood of equally or more dangerous consequences
because the former is enshrined. The brain seems highly adaptable too,
and in evolving processes timing seems a crucial element as we meet the
challenge of the day with whatever limitations we might have. Something
good/bad can happen to anyone, something amazing can come from anywhere.
What I get from this is that statistically speaking we should seek to
improve the likelihood of good outcomes in how we solve problems and
formulate a way forward to include the likelihood that whatever benefit
each may provide is realized within the whole of humanity. I know that
sounds a little like BS. ;-)


and I haven't heard it included in something more than confirmation
bias or to express futility.

On 6/4/2013 11:06 PM, rigs wrote:
> I think resentment is a basic cause of envy between the classes. But
> some are smarter, industrious, creative, etc. You can't equalize those
> qualities unless you re-do DNA or live in a society of robots. You
> have a media that promotes a certain mode of success- mostly built on
> wealth and possessions. You have fractured families due to the social
> movements of the last century. Yet, I do see progress also.//I see "Do
> no harm" as don't make matters worse through ignorance or arrogance.
> Not sure the Ideal is a human possibility.
>
> On Jun 4, 2:38 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> it is extremely difficult to stay within guidelines..I am sure the
>> guidelines of "Do no harm" is among the most difficult ans on the verge of
>> impossibility.. the problem lies within meditation of the variations
>> there of and how does one balance the center line without drifting from
>> side to side
>>
>> Hypocrite "No" not when a person is striving to accomplish the ideal
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:46 PM, James <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> If one gains a mistrust of ambition too well it can stifle their degrees
>>> of movement. I want to read Frederick Douglass, I've tried before but felt
>>> compromised when the inner fire posed a challenge to my discipline. It
>>> wasn't the words on the page that lights my soul ablaze (if I may) but the
>>> chains missing from the depiction of our lady. I know the beauty Allan
>>> speaks of truth, but I dare not touch or mar it, for many she is deaf and
>>> blind, for some a gasp of air while struggling with the undertow, a crack
>>> in the world (ditto).
>>> Then, all the emotion and time comes to naught if we don't choose. Wrong
>>> choices for the right reasons doesn't a leader make, and where does
>>> leadership come from if not that fire sometimes. A great crime it seems is
>>> that many see and don't believe, feel and do nothing. Don't assume I'm
>>> being "a" hypocrite, I am "The".
>>> On 6/4/2013 8:17 AM, Molly wrote:
>>>> well said, Rigs. Very well said.
>>>> On Jun 3, 11:32 pm, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I regard blind Justice two ways: to make judgments free from bias and
>>>>> influence and to hide the tears that must flow watching human
>>>>> behaviors.
>>>>> On Jun 3, 12:53 am, James <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Justice is also blind of skill, manipulation, corruption, nepotism and
>>>>>> many fine traits that sociopaths will deploy in pursuit of fairness (as
>>>>>> in love and war). You really can learn a lot about people in how they
>>>>>> exercise power and authority, especially from beneath the cloud. Someone
>>>>>> gave me a sideways glance the other day when they mentioned the
>>>>>> importance of loyalty and I am glad they did, I might not have pieced
>>>>>> together with such clarity that some people are out looking for dogs,
>>>>>> whereas I tend to differ on fairness and am looking for the genuine and
>>>>>> authentic. On bearing crosses and turning cheek it seems I would do well
>>>>>> to follow gabby and RP's advice, a long lesson of mine.
>>>>>> Thanks Molly for the great tips lately, it is meshing well with my
>>>>>> better foot! :)
>>>>>> On 6/2/2013 10:13 PM, rigs wrote:
>>>>>>> Part of the problem is the tradition of using warfare and conquest as
>>>>>>> an opportunity to rape and pillage and amass slave labor and
>>>>>>> resources. And business can be a form of warfare. Sometimes justice
>>>>>>> happens slowly outside the courts like a dark cloud. Lawyers are
>>>>>>> despied until you really, really need one. And doctors have the
>>>>>>> repuation of burying their mistakes and dislike the fees for
>>>>>>> malpractice insurance. Look at the problems females have in the
>>>>>>> military and business world reporting sexual harassment. No wonder
>>>>>>> Justice is blind!
>>>>>>> On Jun 2, 8:02 pm, James <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> It sounds like a challenge fit for one of those legendary wise leaders
>>>>>>>> who presents a challenge and distributes the loss according to just
>>>>>>>> deserts. But I can't help but wonder what a just challenge would be
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the plaintiff, and what type of arbitration would be sufficient. It
>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>> puzzle Allan, is the theft held among one generation or multiple, what
>>>>>>>> interests are held against it currently?
>>>>>>>> On 6/2/2013 1:48 PM, Allan H wrote:
>>>>>>>>> oops I mean the wealth is no longer considered stolen and has become
>>>>>>>>> acceptable.. even when it is widely know the source is theft..
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:allanh1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> how can money that was stolen be past down to the next
>>>>>>>>> generation,, it seems that it becomes perfectly acceptable and
>>>>>>>>> the wealth is considered no longer acceptable.
>>>>>>>>> Yet if i buy a painting that was stolen still belongs to the
>>>>>>>>> family it was stolen from? It seems it is applied
>>>>>>>>> selectively..
>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>> |_D Allan
>>>>>>>>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>>>>>>>>> Of course I talk to myself,
>>>>>>>>> Sometimes I need expert advice..
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