Re: Mind's Eye Self-mastery

Detroit is as you say, having the powder-keg feeling with severe
problems in housing for long term residents. Midtown and Downtown
have investors coming in to renovate historic buildings into lofts and
condos - 95% occupied by youngsters and entrepreneurs. Detroit is a
low cost option to start a business so a new cultural/artistic class
is emerging to redesign the city. Bankruptcy of the first major
american city seems inevitable sometime later this year because of
years of corruption and neglect. this will have interesting and
problematic ripples into the larger economies of the state and
country, with big problems for pension funds and bond ratings. Why no
one saw it coming, or cared is a mystery.

At the same time there are big investors coming in and donating for
essential services like emergency medical and police and fire. there
is a network of all security agencies, federal, local, state, private
- that share surveillance and crime info. this network protects the
business area. Not sure how they swung the memorandum of
understanding thing- sharing of information and all - but they did out
of necessity and it is working. The downtown and midtown areas are
safer than they have been in decades, although the black on black
crimes in the outlying neighborhoods is untouched.

the convention center is now a model for regional operation, as in
2009, because the city had allowed it to fall apart, the state formed
a regional authority with city, tri-county and state representation.
It is funded by line item entertainment tax (hotel and such) collected
by the state, and the property itself is leased from the city on a
thirty year (three term option) capital lease. It was a good deal for
the city, as they receive $2M a year instead of losing $15M a year
trying and failing to operate it. The Emergency Manager brought in by
the state to see the city through bankruptcy is advocating the
formation of more regional authorities for other city assets that have
degraded.

The result may be something along the line of the old megalopolis
where the cities blend into larger areas that include the suburbs and
even other cities in close proximity, out of financial necessity.

Manufacturing is coming back, especially in the auto, medical, defense
and technology sectors. There is a plan to institute urban farming in
the areas that have been abandon and the homes demolished, and there
are plenty of them. It will be corporate farming, tied into the Wayne
State University research and manufacturing center for developing
products from corn and soy - as the land is unsuitable for growing
food.

Jobs are scarce, and movement between jobs very difficult. But as
business comes back to the downtown area, and it is coming back, jobs
come with it. the convention center itself employees thousands of
people, mostly union workers, and the union environment has its
difficulties. Michigan has just become a right to work state with
much contention, and the unions demonstrate regularly in front of my
office.

It's a show that requires not only pop corn, but Junior Mints and a
large coke ( with a snort from the flask from time to time.)

On Jun 17, 6:05 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You could get more of them illegally Molly.  I've just watched Parks
> and Recreation via Novamov.  Amy Poehler would make a great Dr Who.
>  They did the gay turn via Torchwood and it would be good to see a
> woman in the role.  Current feeble jokes include there being no more
> Dr Whos - they will be replaced by a telephone help line.  Pity we
> can't just press teleport molly - so I could take you to some real
> British accents north of the Caledonian canal, Cornwall, Geordieland,
> East coast Irish-English - Dr Whospeak is very BBC.  We'd be regarded
> as white settlers in the Highlands so we might need the sonic
> screwdriver!
>
> I'm sure you're right on Brahman - mastery is not a good concept if
> conflated with perfection.  I think my real understanding of self/
> individual starts in anthropology/biology and thus I tend to view it
> through culture/environment interaction in co-evolution and to doubt
> the individual self, other than as a small constituent of  competing-
> cooperating individual or sub-system forms.  I'm not so sure on the
> taste thing - I tend to an intense world that creates taste as I watch
> - though this is clearly illusory - I get whiskey when the actor is
> drinking cold tea.  The 'attack' on my intense world by television is
> small in comparison with work in the Bombay slums or some of our own
> hideous shambles.
>
> On another point Molly - how is Detroit?  Most of our comparable
> former manufacturing cities (Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool,
> Glasgow, Leeds-Bradford, Hull and so on) have rebuilt centres - the
> problems are generally in housing schemes surrounding them - a bit
> like Paris.  There are few jobs that allow people to develop self-
> sufficiency and security - and that 'powder-keg' feeling.
>
> On 17 June, 20:12, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I was sorry to run out of Dr. Who episodes on Netflix as I found them
> > very amusing.  During the time that I was absorbed by them, my dreams
> > were filled with folks speaking with British accents.  What fun.
>
> > For me, self mastery has nothing to do with denying or doing violence
> > to my appetites.  This said, none of my appetites run away with me and
> > have been blessed to escape addiction although my Irish family is
> > riddled with it.  Always being ready for what is next helps leave what
> > was behind, or at least, gives little room for obsession.  After
> > awhile I found that each experience presented had its own flavor, yet
> > all had an over riding feeling of distance - like watching a movie,
> > knowing the actors can taste what they are eating, but not being able
> > to taste with them.  Ken Wilber attributes it to what he calls "One
> > Taste".  There is only Brahman.  The mastery is beyond self.
>
> > On Jun 17, 2:48 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > My Bulgarian neighbours have a still Don - so cheap whiskey is more
> > > difficult to give up, especially as it tastes better than most of the
> > > top shelf.  Progressing humanity in a humane direction is tough.  What
> > > we need is something as easy as swooning teenagers with i-Phones  I'm
> > > actually serious about this.  I'm beginning to feel like Dr Who - the
> > > only one who can see the illusion keeping us in thrall to human-
> > > skinned aliens.  I know this isn't true, but the struggle just doesn't
> > > seem worth it.
>
> > > I reckon most of us could be president and be as bad as any history
> > > has thrown up.  Leadership is pretty easy once you crack
> > > Entinwobbleism .The problem is big government and dogs who eat one's
> > > false teeth.  I think we need to spot that government really doesn't
> > > take place in Parliament and Congress.  Frederick Soddy (a chemist who
> > > wrote on economics) knew this in 1934. The small change we need is to
> > > rid ourselves of the banksters and get to a can do attitude with money
> > > that isn't about hoarding the stuff and letting a few steal it so
> > > easily.
>
> > > On 17 June, 16:51, Don Johnson <daj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I have been inspired. I'm off cheap whisky. Only top shelf for me from now
> > > > on. I'm also never going to dip snuff again. Ever. Isn't the English
> > > > version of Entinhaltichung wobbly?
>
> > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:23 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I think War Plan Red as actually the US defence plan against possible
> > > > > Brit invasion via Halifax in Canada - written around 1930.  They
> > > > > actually built the aerodromes near the border.
>
> > > > > For some reason I was thinking about Gabby and German politics in
> > > > > terms of RP's self-mastery.  I'd tend to vote Green here if we had a
> > > > > decent PR system.  They poll about 15% in Deutschland and are rather
> > > > > smartly dressed for my taste these days.  When I was last there they
> > > > > were split between whether to enter real politics or just do protest
> > > > > and looked like swamp creatures.  Merkel is still the front runner and
> > > > > actually is a swamp creature.  She has mastered the RP scheme.These
> > > > > days, she seems to have no policy of her own. Instead, after a
> > > > > suitable delay, she takes on opposition policies in a diluted form.
> > > > > Intellectual critics complain that she has no 'idea', no 'concept'.
> > > > > And to describe what she does, or rather doesn't, they have coined a
> > > > > frightful new German word: Entinhaltlichung, meaning
> > > > > 'Decontentification - though, of course, no Englishman would use such
> > > > > a word, even if it was in his lexicon.  All this made me think of what
> > > > > our word for RP-style self-mastery would be, given it means not doing
> > > > > some stuff you didn't really want to in the first place and aren't
> > > > > really bothered about.  It all feels about as passionate as
> > > > > Entinhaltlichung.  Anyway, until RP circulates the rest of his hidden
> > > > > missive, I have given up Frau Merkel as my contribution to self-
> > > > > mastery week.  Not many women who look old enough to be my mother are
> > > > > actually two years younger than me, so this and my renewed dedication
> > > > > on not eating pickled onions matches RP's booze and tabs.
>
> > > > > On 17 June, 07:49, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > pickled onions  hmm  more for me..    always knew the low life royal
> > > > > > dynasties were all tied together and terribly inbred. Hmm if  war plan
> > > > > red
> > > > > > had been implemented would have been very interesting ..
>
> > > > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 11:01 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > The English royals are essentially German Allan.  Under today's
> > > > > > > succession rules Kaiser Wilhelm would have been our king before WW1.
> > > > > > > I suspect Churchill's real plan for WW2 was to bring back the fascist
> > > > > > > one who abdicated (Edward 8) to lead a new alliance with Germany and
> > > > > > > Canada against the USA - something foreseen in War Plan Red.  Who
> > > > > > > really knows?  I am no longer taking bets for a serious war soon in
> > > > > > > Syria-Iran  Can't you do something about the Dutch royals mate?  We
> > > > > > > had endless hours here on that abdication, though are back to the Duke
> > > > > > > of Edinburgh's prostate now.
>
> > > > > > > I never eat pickled onions.  Is this self-mastery?
>
> > > > > > > On 15 June, 18:54, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Calm down, Allan. I employ my YOU differently from our YOU-queen's
> > > > > usage.
> > > > > > > > And RP is not the drinking and smoking type, so I was safe to not got
> > > > > > > shot
> > > > > > > > from that side.
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> > > > > > > > 2013/6/15 Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
>
> > > > > > > > > why would you have to look outside for someone who has stopped
> > > > > > > smoking??
> > > > > > > > > that makes no sense to me Gabby,, how can you tell me i lied to you
> > > > > > > because
> > > > > > > > > I quit drinking over 33 years ago;;  if you were my employer i
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > told you.
>
> > > > > > > > > It is very great accomplishment to quit smoking.. and to be
> > > > > admired.
> > > > > > >  to
> > > > > > > > > diminish that accomplishment would show some one who never had to
> > > > > deal
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > the trials of life..
>
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 1:39 PM, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > >> Having a master plan is no guarantee beyond your own sense of
> > > > > > > > >> accomplishment. Life is filled with surprises.
>
> > > > > > > > >> On Jun 15, 3:58 am, Gabby Thiede <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > The problem with this this individual list is, it is not
> > > > > working for
> > > > > > > > >> for friendly coexistence seekers. One needs to set up ones own
> > > > > master
> > > > > > > plan
> > > > > > > > >> to be able to defend ones own right for existence against those
> > > > > who
> > > > > > > are in
> > > > > > > > >> possession of The Master Plan. And that is a hard job.
> > > > > > > > >> > Your smoking makes me having to look for you outside the
> > > > > building
> > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > >> I have a question. Your drinking makes me find out later how you
> > > > > lied
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >> me. That is no problem for your list but "needs" me to change to
> > > > > > > remain a
> > > > > > > > >> friendly seeker. Yeah, self-mastery is good.
>
> > > > > > > > >> > Am 15.06.2013 um 00:27 schrieb RP Singh <123...@gmail.com>:
>
> > > > > > > > >> > > The list is not important. My point is that everyone has a
> > > > > need of
> > > > > > > > >> particular do's and don'ts , which though important to oneself are
> > > > > > > > >> commonplace and no problem to others. But it is the need to
> > > > > > > self-mastery ,
> > > > > > > > >> to change oneself that is required and it is not a hard job
> > > > > rather a
>
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