Re: Mind's Eye Re: Heaven & Hell -- awareness

I'm a little stuck with the science part RP, much of it is intuitive and
practical for developing reliable representations of reality but I have
learned to be wary of potentially misleading conclusions and
constructions of reality. Sequences of events can quickly be confounding
but get clearer with some forward and reverse scouting for missing
lines, the results are pretty reliable antecedents and consequents. I
can't say when I learned this but it started in my first four years
along with knowledge similar to what Don has said on meaning (my
usefulness was watch, wait and protect). I think that the brain can make
amazing adaptions to a person's earliest environments with exceptional
and quirky effects, people can make leaps, perhaps there is an imbalance
in favor of the lucky few leaps that live to tell their story (heh).
Watching and waiting doesn't make for an exciting story. But things that
I've seen have been, from looking at things for long periods and making
cities when people said 'there is something wrong with the boy' he was
absorbing deeper structures in a rock or patterns in plants and could
drop it in ten seconds or ten minutes to go create a world in the dirt
consisting of people working together to make the world, as opposed to a
world that seemed at the mercy of ignorant and rapacious elements
tearing it apart. So I think my delusions started there, especially the
dreams that have replayed like we are living in a story already written
and played out. Thousands of occurences like that still amount to
nothing scientific in the least, except the reliability and diversity of
types (that was not the most common example, it will have to suffice for
this exercise). Stopping to interrogate my instincts and check what
trails identify the current spot has become routine, but there has been
no explanation or meaning. So it is a continuing mystery.

How would one proceed scientifically on something seemingly impossible
to explain?

I mean that from a long history of suffering because of it. Most of what
I know has a cost, even with a bit or resistance there is little choice
in it even if there seems to be no place for it. Imagine the dilemma if
you had no choice but to take something like that seriously, for the
sake of exercise.

On 8/10/2013 10:46 AM, RP Singh wrote:
> Mardi , whatever you are saying about re-evaluation is conjecture and
> imagination without logical foundation , it is just a belief system
> based on faith in some schools of thought and has no scientific basis.
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Mardi <mardimccabe@gmail.com
> <mailto:mardimccabe@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Allan, there are many different wonderful traditional teachings
> about the soul, the essence of our humanity, some also speak of
> spirit or the psyche. So many beautiful ideas. And the simple
> guideline of "do no harm" is not only elegantly to the point but
> is also worth a lot of thought. We could go into long
> conversations about what is harm, how we can avoid doing harm, etc.
>
> Of course there are things which harm everyone. Yet so often we
> try to rationalize why I should be able to do this or that which
> pleases me or benefits me and not think about the distant harm
> that is causing to possibly many many people. Then there is the
> thought that what harms one person does not harm another. So we
> must spend time to know each person we interact with to find what
> harms them. And so many other ideas and questions related to this
> very simple idea of "do no harm"
>
> And I totally agree that our awareness evolves, affecting our
> beliefs, our motivations, our actions. And I do think that our
> souls leave this body and experience an intensive period of
> evaluation of our total life and its effects and consequences.
> That can feel like heaven or like hell but it pushes us into
> another life with a greater awareness and more evolved understanding.
>
> To me heaven and hell are these periods of re-evaluation before we
> return to this life in a new body and new family, culture, place
> to try again with a little more awareness from our previous life.
> For some at one end of the spectrum, who have spent their life in
> knowingly causing harm, the re-evaluation will be pretty awful and
> the awareness may change only slightly. For some at the other end
> of the spectrum who have consciously spent their life in trying to
> live doing no harm, the re-evaluation period is a wonderful
> experience of realizing the greater understanding and awareness
> they gained in the past life and eagerly enter a new life to learn
> and evolve more.
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 9, 2013 4:08:35 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote:
>
> I can not help but takein normal & tradtional teachings. I
> believe very much in the guideline "Do No Harm" There are
> souls running around causing great harm..
>
> Oh yeah since you were gone. . My beliefs evolved to we are
> souls that have a body and the 'Soul' is wgat guides and
> controls the body.. not the vis a versa that has been handed
> down through the generations.
>
> Souls Rule!
>
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