Ah now you bring up an interesting topic: heaven and hell
The idea of reality, the universe, and everything I came up with (back in my 30s?) was that God inhabits the experienced universe and also inhabits beyond time and space and also exists in That ultimate Reality which is simply the eternal pure state of Being as such. When we are living in and experiencing the world, we experience many things. We experience God also but very few consciously recognize God in and through the universe.
Whatever. When we leave our physical bodies, we leave the material universe and encounter God inhabiting all that is outside of time and space. That is still not God as That Reality which only God can experience. But when we leave the material universe and come into the place of God, that is both heaven and hell. When one has spent life avoiding and hiding from God and the truth of one's self, encountering God must be terribly frightening.
So I think that in compassion God actually quarantines those souls so that they experience only the conscious state they have created for themselves - which is also pretty grim and disturbing.
I also think that we can only experience the wonder and bliss of God up to the degree we have gained sufficient conscious awareness in our journeys through our lives. And I think that both heaven and hell are temporary states of re-evaluation for our souls before trying to make another go at life and see how to gain more awareness.
On Friday, August 9, 2013 1:34:04 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote:
Been thinking about the christian hell ... could that be a black hole??On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Mardi <mardi...@gmail.com> wrote:Alan, I very much like your philosophy and the meaningful reality which you experience and express. I also agree about the evolution of ideas. I also like your idea of the blind spiritual exam. Though I think I would probably characterize it as a blind journey rather than an exam. I think our lives play out in ways that are both harmful and beneficial - to ourselves and to others. And we can notice or fail to notice at every turn how we are behaving and change direction.
I agree that the real journey in our life demonstrates the true nature of our core personality for this life. I think that when we begin to attempt to be conscious about what our choices, actions, motivations, are saying about how we are living life and recognize when we are doing harm, the journey can take a positive turn.
On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 2:35:16 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote:I thought about existentialism when I was young but all ideas evolve .. if they don't you are spiritually dead.. more or less anyway sometime one gets caught in the quagmire of beliefs.. but even then one can strip away invalid information.Personally I reached the conclusion that I am a immortal soul that has taken the human form to do my blind spiritual exam.. the advantage to the blind test is the true personality of the soul shows through.. if the soul is kind the person will be kind.. if the soul is selfish the person will be selfish.. if greed the person will show the true personality of the soul..there is really only one guideline.. "Do no Harm" all souls know it and know it well to the point you could say it is written on the soul.. as to the exam it demonstrates souls response to this guide line. The soul demonstrates it dharma.. after the death of the body well the exam results reveal the souls karma//--
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