Cultures change how children were raised even 50 years ago it totally different than what it is today. what was considered proper 400 years ago.. I would never have even considered raising my own children by those standards of yesteryear. and by the same understanding the standards by which children are being raised today are coming in to question as being far to lax ..
St. Nick has evolved into a good holiday with good characters demonstrating proper moral standards. what ever its origin has turned into a good event or rather period of time.. unlike the coke santa has evolved into a season of greed and self centered culture especially in the US (I know that is the culture I was raised in and it has not changed) and the roll over effect is happening here in europe.. christmas good are already showing up in the markets..
Celebrations meaning and values change,, a good example is the Thanksgiving celebration was a feast originally set up by the christian pilgrim fathers to lure the local natives who shared and helped them survive the first years.. into a genocide so they could claim their land and they would not have to share the fruits of the land..
Today that act would be classified as a crime against humanity.. and the leadership would be investigated for trial in the world court and they would have been convicted by today's standards.
If you are going to eliminate culture changes that origined from times past claims of slavery you then have to eliminate all culture that evolved from bygone eras .. let me see that includes americanised / Jamacian dance and music.. sorry that evolved from slavery there fore is not allowed..
Matrix ** th3 beginning light -- Do No Harm
--So I am jealous because you are celebrating the sharing, while it was really here in Berlin where the sharing took place at the "Africa conference"? Ok, our colonial history still is less present in everyday living. Our St Nikolaus' servant is Knecht Ruprecht. He whips evil children with a birch/rod. Only a couple of years ago this everyday tradition has been forbidden by law. Der Schwarze Peter also exists in German traditional story telling, he represents the incarnation of evil here. Old people still find him amusing, while younger parents try to find more adequate contemporary teaching material. The coke Santa marketing strategy of choosing an innocent reindeer is much more successful in that respect.
I don't think ME is going anywhere,, You need to study and if need be you can always send private emails..
Gabby I read that piece. what I am reading is some that a person with a server problem. Experience has taught me to listen oor read carefully what a person has said. It will revel who they are.. in this case a person troubled by racism..
I live here and deal with it every year.. It is a celebration sharing. It seems the racist people are very jealous of Hollands annual celebration.. they want to replace a traditional holiday period with a phoney jolly fat man santa of coke origin.
here are far to many people who will destroy what is good because they don't like it. Well all I can say is if swarte peit bothers you don't come to Holland while the St Nickolas celebrations are going on.. It is a celebration teaching children about sharing.. and being good.. Bad children are taken to spain when St Nick returns... Luud and I have booth been bad this year.... lol
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On Oct 23, 2013 2:54 PM, "pol.science kid" <r.freebird@gmail.com> wrote:--woah..ME cant go.. although semester pressure keeps me from thinking much on my own.. ive become a tragic zombie... but i do follow most posts.....--On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:51 PM, gabbydott <gabbydott@gmail.com> wrote:http://processedlives.wordpress.com/2013/10/15/the-delicious-pleasures-of-racism/ (have a look Allan)
Iam still FOR the death of the blue man's eye world view.--2013/10/23 Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com>It is amazingly great to feel GOOD!!!!! I have been in the pits or rather steel restrictor bands. the medication just put me in a strange space. always tired, reaction and balance shot.
I think because this condition was created by medicine, removing the medication has suddenly removed the restrictions.. It feels good to feel good.
The weather is pleasant at the moment. much different in the states.. my daughter is complaining about the cold so you are not alone James.. weather is starting to get strange..
After the end of WW II due to the heavy bombing raid and the high altitude contrails had an effect on the weather.. colder..... it was noticeable..I can not help but wonder about all airline and air freight contrails.. I am wondering how much colder it will be making our winters. The skill of man at destroying his enviorment
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On Oct 23, 2013 4:21 AM, "James" <ashkashal@gmail.com> wrote:--I've known a few who were more 'normal' as a mugglehead Allan. Man, this weather put the squeeze into my bones this week. ;-)
Watching The Butler might not be a good idea for someone who has worked alone most of ten years and can count the breaks from daily routine in a year on both hands. Mind's Eye is a welcome 'change'. Home, James! :p
On 10/22/2013 4:52 PM, Allan H wrote:
I am sure it is not doing to fade,, and Andrew, just got off the meds that suppressed all emotion .. it is fantastic it is fantastic to have a great day ,, why would it being depressed,, it I need medication again we are going to try wacky to-baccy.. other common name Grass ,, roughly translated I will become a mugglehead..
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:42 PM, richard blay <richsun.b@gmail.com <mailto:richsun.b@gmail.com>> wrote:
I've sent a reply to this post but seems it never came or is it
being moderated?
Mr. Allan, this group is not going to fade, be assured.
Silence is sometimes good as it heals
( though there has been no butchering here lol ) and also refreshes in
generating new ideas.
Mr. Andrew, I have you in my friend list on facebook. Thanks.
Minds eye will continue, sure it will.
On 10/22/13, andrew vecsey <andrewvecsey@gmail.com
<mailto:andrewvecsey@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Dear Allan.
> You can cheer up. Our group will not fade into the foot notes of
time I
> don`t think. And if it goes to sleep for a while and we all find
ourselves
> in the dark corners of our mind, the group can always be
revived. We are
> all archived.... for luck.
> I am sure we are all continuing to think in this golden silence
that has
> covered the group. And I am confident that we are checking when
ever we can
>
> for some new topic thrown around that we want to think about and
share our
> thoughts.
> If you are sad because of this silence, just go back to the
older posts
> anbd revive some of them. There are lots of interesting comments
from past
> posts about topics. Some of them end up going off track. Get
them back on
> track.
> I see the friendship amongst the membership and I am confident
that that
> alone will hold us together.
> Allen, I got an idea. Get sick or even depressed, and share it
on line.
> That will get posts rolling.
>
> On Monday, October 21, 2013 9:35:53 PM UTC+2, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> Is it the desire of the group members of Minds Eye to let the
our group
>> fade in to the foot notes of time,, one day wishing it was back?
>>
>> Hiding in the dark corners of the mind?
>>
>> Where can we go to stimulate our minds or is it just to be
Black Empty
>> silence??
>>
>> --
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>> )
>>
>> |_D Allan
>>
>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>>
>> Of course I talk to myself,
>> Sometimes I need expert advice..
>>
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