Mind's Eye Re: mistaken origins

Things falling into place is very much an indicator of an individual truth creation process taking place. Congratulations.

Am Samstag, 14. Dezember 2013 02:33:33 UTC+1 schrieb Molly:

Once I learned to be honest with myself, honesty related to anything else just fell into place.  I've done a lot of reading and a bit of teaching.  There seems to me to be a thread of something true that can be traced back to the origins of written history.  But life in any age has myriad dimension, and relativity and relative truth creates the diversity we either learn to hate or celebrate.  I have always preferred individuality to herd mentality but I am not sure how much of the herd shows up in historical documents, or for that matter, individuality.  It is much easier to spot today with technology putting it all out there, and in our face at the same time.

On Friday, December 13, 2013 1:24:17 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:

I sunk a lot of costs in philosophy.  The stuff was around at university and research was supposed to require epistemology.  Some of the experience was enjoyable.  It didn't shake convictions I learned in science or as a detective.  Roughly put there is evidence and the rest is piss and wind.  Evidence relies on audiences capable of understanding and these are rare. I even bought a book called 'Audiences' to learn more, but like most academic books and papers, it disappointed.  You have to read an awful lot of dross to find the few gems.  Whilst doing this you can be suckered , even seduced by arguments that convince that you are on a righteous path to truth.  The Greeks, probably copying and developing more eastern work, pondered a lot on virtue ethics, living in a slave economy and seemingly unaware the edifice built was ideal for cheats who could feign integrity; a system ideal for jerks living off the labour of others and worse.

It's tough being honest, even to the extent one of the biggest lies we are told is that honesty is the best policy.  Most systems I've experienced are designed to prevent honesty.  We use manners, etiquette and due process instead.  Evidence is replaced by human recall of what it was.  We have chronic problems because of this.  Most of us are lousy eye-witnesses.  I want to argue we are trapped in Greek origins, the mentality of an elite who routinely allowed and justified slavery.

Anyone any ideas?

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