About 70% of Russian energy going west goes through Ukraine. About half of the country is Russian. Before WW2 administration was split between Poland and USSR, roughly the split between Ukrainian and Russian speakers now. Ethnically both sets are East-Slav. Oil and gas have been found in west Ukraine. The mostly pro-Russian people live east of a line about 50 miles from Kiev. I haven't been since Soviet days, but the ethnic hatreds were deep and legion. The whole region has centuries of conflict that makes the US Civil War look tame and almost civilized.
On Tuesday, 4 March 2014 09:56:40 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
-- The Russians don't want war and about 80% evade their draft. I suppose the worrying thing is that WW1 started over less and took only 37 days to kick off. The relevant armies were hopelessly unprepared back then as now. The obvious answer is a new partition and we may see this as the defacto position in a few days s various militias rise in the east. Atrocities have been the norm in the past. I can't see how anyone gains other than through financial manipulation. My heart goes out to the poor sods caught up in it.
On Tuesday, 4 March 2014 09:56:40 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
I think they are heading to war or invasion.. what ever Russia is up to it is not good for us.. that is for sure.. but what do you expect from souls whose basic nature is that of a bully? It is sad for people directly effected..
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:19 AM, archytas <nwt...@gmail.com> wrote:
I have no idea what goes on. I don't have any roubles. While reading up on some history I did read that Krushchev ceded control of the Crimea to Kiev in 1954, Stalin expelled the Tartars killing 45% and that there were genocidal starvations. I sort of knew this stuff, but was amazed to discover Sevastopol was the centre of massive slaving of Europeans to the Middle East, mostly by the Tartars - who sacked Moscow in 1751 taking thousands into slavery. This European slavery continued after the bombardment of Algiers in 1816.--It looks to me as though the Russians were enticed into invading Crimea. This has crashed the rouble and their stockmarket - one wonders who was short on both positions. The only thing I'e noticed is the reliance of western Europe on Russian energy. Anyone any ideas?
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