Re: Mind's Eye Re: Economic cycles

I can't model spirit Allan.  I could replace the banksters with a couple of honest adding machines.

On Sunday, 4 May 2014 19:32:00 UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote:

I hope boyfriend Tim joins us, he has some amazing insights.

As for banking, it is not an honest system ,, but there are honest bankers, they are not democratic in nature, the original of the golden calf that has matured into the stock market bull.

The problems are well known, changing the monetary system, you would have a better chance of getting ice water in he'll, ¿is that how the saying went? But I think one would need to create a bank (their game. ) following strict moral well defined simple guidelines.. then there is hope looked into it several years ago, I was surprised at the low cost  far less than I was expecting, the most difficult part was getting the ties to major banks is more difficult. What I didn't know at the time was I actually had the contact needed from my childhood ,, an old friend.

I can be done, with a few strokes of a pen, lol .  The problem is in designing the bank based on spiritual principles .. the monetary system really doesn't matter.. what matters is getting the correct perspective.


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I was going to wrote something serious on money and inequality in the next few months.  What has put me off is most of it has been said.  This is typical of the information I was collecting:

'Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of Bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create deposits'.

Sir Josiah Stamp. He was president of the Bank of England in the 1920's, and the second richest man in Britain at that time.

​The madness, as a scientist, is that we have not developed 'modern money', that is applied to projects we should do - the obvious being major efforts to green the planet and remove poverty from the work equation.  I doubt this would be difficult if we had democratic politics.  These days it's less socialism and theory and more about technology and agreements to do things in full employment.  There are some theories about - the current American one is called MMT - modern monetary theory and this involves job guarantee.  I just don't think it's theoretical in this way.  We've lost the democratic plot and the ability to challenge basics like motivation to work and what I call the 'groaf, jawbs. contrakshun' fallacy.

 

Apart from the obvious drift on nearly all money to a tiny few and now massive involvement of crime and Ponzi financing, we seem to have lost the plot on capacity.  Very little of what we have built ever makes money in the sense a successful restaurant does.  Railways are a classic.  We have somehow got confused that we need the same money to invest in restaurants and green power stations.  This does not have to be the case and is down to our welfare sponsorship of the banks.  We could agree big green projects across the planet using entirely different money.  This would not entail giving up sovereignty, but would mean a change in what we think trade agreements are and our stupid fixation on something called comparative advantage.

Hope you are well Don.

On Monday, 28 April 2014 05:04:34 UTC+1, Don Johnson wrote:

It is my belief we are behaving like human beings. Greed is in every culture. We may dress it up prettily and call it ambition or drive if we like but humans have at heart their own self-interest. Protecting family and friends is inherently self-protective as well. I think there are far too many poeple that see the world as an extended family. While this may be true genetically these folks are making a horrible mistake if they think even 15% of the rest of the world thinks this way as well. Where is Glasnost now?

dj

On Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:39:35 AM UTC-5, Allan Heretic wrote:

I have been thinking about what is happening  and history seems to always be repeating itself,  self correcting the course of humanity.

Looking at society it seems that we have developed a culture of extreme greed..  am wondering where the course is going to change to.

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