Re: Mind's Eye Re: Revenge

The moral gauge I suggest to kids is "never do anything you would not want everyone to know about."  The age of transparency.

On Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:35:46 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote:

When the blind follow the blind they both will fall into a pit.

Looking at the justification for moral values little should surprise anyone. The actions vs talk how can there be morals. I was talking with my daughter and she made the comment to me that was an honor yet kind of strange. When she had a situation that she did not know how to deal with it she always asked herself how would my Dad handle it?

Who are the moral compasses today? Who are our guides? Or is it simply does it really matter as all there is what one sees?

Allan
A Living Soul


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From: Molly <mollyb363@gmail.com>
To: minds-eye@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 3:09 PM
Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Revenge

I don't know what percentage of humanity is capable or observing self and correcting self, but the longer I live, the smaller I think that number may be. As I look around, i see so many of the people around me acting out their emotions (revenge among them) on others. Not always easy to see if they know just what they are doing and why.

On Sunday, October 19, 2014 8:28:54 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote:

Complex stuff Pol.  I get the feelings, but can't remember doing much about them.  Politicians raise it in me as soon as their lips move.  So does my grandson (currently idle, smelly teenager), though 'tough love' doesn't appeal.  Academic criticism often feels a form of it and a lot of projection and ad hom is involved.  In my time, cops used to beat up sex offenders, largely on the basis the court system didn't work.  I used to pursue them for other crimes.  There is nothing more exhilarating than pointing out the flaws in others (from the movie Clerks), a sort of revenge.  Many lecturing colleagues took revenge out on students - education generally looks pretty nasty to me.

I like to think I can walk away from it, as in not retaliating in rugby, but I always did within the rules.  Human behaviour is so dire we might be in a constant state of vendetta.  In films the black hats are set up as so bad they deserve what they get.  In reality, we tend to take out revenge on powerless victims.  Child sexual exploitation may be an example.  The victim is usually subject to multiple acts of revenge from supposedly decent people. 

On Sunday, 19 October 2014 12:13:23 UTC+1, pol.science kid wrote:

I was on the internet.. and just came across this tv series called "revenge".. and i was thinking... are we capable of not taking revenge.. regarding matters that affect us too deeply... i have pretty mean vengeful feelings when i feel i have been wronged unjustly.. of course when i cant do anything in the situation i act out my revenge mentally.. plan something to get back to the person ... its quite a revelation when you think yourself quite a decent person.. What do you guys think of revenge.. its dealt with in every movie and television series or novel.. and of course what our instructive morality from 'elders' says is that do not take revenge.. But i think forgiveness is a capacity.. and we are so inclined for revenge.. Since most of you have pretty varied experience in life.. Have any of you ever taken revenge.. or decided not to?

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