I've run into agencies that grab the cash and fudge the numbers. I've also seen some do great work. Lake County IL has a council against sexual assault funded by state and federal money that is called to the scene with the cops to advocate for the victim, interview and follow through. They also have a fantastic prevention program that I helped get into the school systems there. Counselors go to each class and talk to kids as a group and individually after. Their rates of disclosure and successful intervention is very high, and knowing the families in the district and the school administrators, I knew enough of the case facts to see the difference was legitimate and good overall.
-- I just think we can't let let the overwhelming number of problems stop us, we have to keep doing what we can as individuals, and working on our own sense of decency and justice because we each need to exercise our own honor in everything we do, whatever we are called to do. That said, I did leave social services for corporate work having burned out. To prevent my staff from burning out, I took on the Friday task of telling teen parents that their welfare was cut off because they were not meeting the requirements of the program, like attending school or getting their babies health care services. These girls were often drunk, beat up, belligerent or had the gang tats that signify having killed someone on their face (and not afraid to let you know it.) What I learned in the transition to the private sector is that every work culture has its ratio of honor/corruption that we make our way through. There are also states of consciousness that we hold as individuals that create more or less harmony in our experience no matter what our vocation. We are resilient and spiral up and down in our ability to sustain those higher states throughout life given our ability to love and relate.
There is no end to the dismal stories. The change begins first within ourselves, and then with what we can influence in the course of the day. Whatever we are called to do, it matters. A retirement of reclusive prayer sounds mighty nice sometimes. Mighty nice.
On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:16:10 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:16:10 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
We have a thing here called the troubled family programme. Councils get £4000 to identify a troubled family and turn it round. Costs for this on previous programmes ran between £60K and £250K - yet the Government claims half of 120,000 families are 'turned round'. The thing is run by Louise Casey - she has run failed programmes for 15 years claiming successes. Her results never stand up to scrutiny, but she survives. Academic criticism is led by Ruth Levitas and we can't even get much of the alleged data, even on the supposed £9 billion these families cost in criminal justice and welfare.The number of people like Casey around in our public sector and their lack of ethics is a major problem. All one would have to do to discredit this programme would be to visit a sample of 50 families and their neighbours. We don't.
On Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:55:20 AM UTC, archytas wrote:This from Huffpo back in JuneThe total number of rape test kits that have never been sent to laboratories for testing exceeds 100,000. In some cases, the kits have been sitting in storage for decades. From the Washington Post:"In 2009, authorities found more than 11,000 unprocessed kits at the Detroit crime lab after it was closed for improperly handling weapons evidence. After testing the first 2,000 kits, authorities identified 127 serial rapists and made 473 matches overall to known convicts or arrestees, or to unknown people whose genetic material was found at crime scenes."Cops get a very good press because of film and television series. In fact, bungling is the name of the game across our justice system. Britain and the USA score very badly in the developed nations' access to justice league.To write off a CSE case as 'unreliable witness, no further action' costs £500. Deal with the case properly and this may shoot to £100,000. And deal with one case properly and you set a precedent for hundreds more. Not popular with the bean counters and those interested in keeping reported crime low.
On Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:21:40 AM UTC, archytas wrote:One of the issues Mando is we don't understand much about making things better.
On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 11:24:08 PM UTC, Molly wrote:The rich have a much better time of it here, too, Mando.
On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:46:33 PM UTC-4, Mando wrote:I am much shock!
I thought these were only happening on our side of the world ( Africa especially Ghana ). I used to blame journalists or the media for that matter, for not taking these kind of social issues up till I watched from the news that people prefer settling matters concerning rape at home than courts, reasons given were many:
families of victims are too poor to hire lawyer(s),
they had no time to follow such cases as the courts keep postponing the ruling from one date to another,
they cannot make the case public because the family cannot stand the stigmatization...Woe to you if you do not have a relative in higher authority of the nation because only the rich can make the system or law works. A police man is willing to assist you if only you have something to offer. 'the poor doesn't go to court' as my late grandma would put it
On Oct 29, 2014 8:43 PM, "Molly" <mollyb363@gmail.com> wrote:What abuse we tolerate in groups large and small has much to do with our inability to face the issues and take action to solve them. Fear prevents people from involvement in these truly terrifying human transgressions and ironically, fear creates the personality disorders in the abusers. I took a pregnant teen parent to the hospital because the father of her kids beat her badly. He showed up at the hospital and began screaming and coming at her. The hospital security would have nothing to do with it unless they witnessed him causing her physical injury again, at which point they would not stop him but call the police. After placing myself between them several times and heated negotiations with the hospital, she and I were given an examining room and he was not allowed to enter. He did pace the waiting room and gave us a hard time all the way to my car. I dropped her at her mothers, but don't think things got much better for her after. She would not file a police report because she had several times and it came to naught, which only escalated the abuse.--It seems to me that the majority of us have a fear of involvement because it means taking some abuse ourselves from the abuser and his people but from the system too sometimes. It is easier to walk away, but not more honorable.On the other hand, I have spoken up at times, put myself in harms way, only to have it work out so that the people I advocate for can flourish. Buy the ticket, take the ride. Don't expect a thrill every time.
On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:40:32 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote:Latest 'research' in the UK reckons 10% of the CSE problem is stranger- gangs and 90% in the home - maybe 600,000 victims in the country. Something very similar to this was in the textbooks when I taught social admin in the mid-80s. I still don't actually know whether it is true or not.I suspect a much wider problem in a wider, abusive and disabling society. Answers, like Soviet Paradise, were never answers at all. What I suspect is massive confusion on data - not in the piffling way we might consider calling it capta. In a way, scientific and material progress (which I regard as real, if with problems) and its run-up against questions on what life is and should be about (religion?) seem set against each other to prevent argument leading to sensible praxis. It's very difficult to make the argument about this - it would be far too long for most to listen and contribute.We have a case here in which Surrey Police gave shotguns back to a man who then killed two women with them - the last woman was killed despite making a 999 call. The cops commissioned two 'independent' reports from - er - other cops - and have apologised. It seems Surrey did not follow proper procedures. Even at this level, argument is extremely difficult - one only has to imagine what the former ME gun lobby would say. What we lack is public argument that gets sensible things done and recognises we can't expect perfect outcomes. At what point do we recognise bad outcomes are not just inevitable mistakes but concern corruption, incompetence and widespread system failure - and that 'enquiries' aren't fixing much, if anything, decade on decade?As a cop who did 'find' victims of CSE, I know that 35 years ago "finance" was a major issue in our failure to investigate and prosecute and not much has changed. The public has little idea of the cuffing, nodding, skewing and fitting that goes on. Police statistics are no better than Enron or Tesco accounting, but cops are also a small part of the overall problems in a dire criminal justice system. All families let down could technically have used Judicial Review to force the proper actions needed - but almost no one can afford Judicial Review, a standard legal Catch 22. We are now seeing a rush by cops to CSE prosecutions - this really only proves they could have done it before. Much the same could be said on throwing bankers in jail or the politicians who lied to us or stood by doing nothing on Iraq etc. Much of what is going on concerns extremely poor work by professionals paid massive sums of money - and the extent to which thieves now run so much and our disenfranchisement from resourcing decisions. Chief constables are heard saying we can have either action on burglaries or child abuse prevention.All this rot takes place in the mad ideology of jawbs-groaf-burn-the-planet financing in which we delay people's retirement just as we have massive youth unemployment and require a degree for shelf-stacking. We might have to start looking at these matters in terms of how the mad might cure themselves. I often think of it all as operating under the pheromones of a giant slaver-ant matriarch or set of vampires.
On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 3:28:06 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:The problems are well known, how does one go about changing this boxed society?
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