Mind's Eye Re: The fairytale entities

  I never gave much thought to the bible until I understood it as a diagram for living. I find it now to be your answer book, Neil, on the good our infinite natures can bring into our lives and a how to manual to go about that. "What is done in secret is rewarded openly," is probably the most referenced biblical statement by contemporary Christian mystics. It tells us that when a mystical viewpoint is achieved, what we "do" in spirit is manifest, often as improvement in our experience. There is probably something similar to this in every mystical tradition.  I know it is much the basis of shamanism, a tradition many consider to be ancient and dead but is in fact, very much alive in various parts of the globe.

"what is done in secret" or in spirit, requires that state of consciousness that is (as I noted in a different post) fully and deeply connected to all aspects of life, outside of the rational mental constructs. The mind becomes engaged to visualize and feel "what is done" or what the divine makes manifest.  It sounds like magical thinking but is not, because it is trans-rational, a concept difficult to understand if non dual thinking has never been achieved. It is viewed to be the heaven on earth realm where miracles are possible and made evident. This would have all been theory for me if my brother Mike's stage four liver lung and spleen lymphoma did not spontaneously disappear from one doctors visit in the next, and the doctors did not even hazard a guess as to how it could have happened.

The good of it can only be understood, it seems, by someone who has experienced this state of consciousness and so has a fundamental understanding of the possibilities. Like the old story of the island natives who could not see the explorer's ships on the water in front of them because they had no fundamental knowledge of ships on the water. So our infinite and eternal aspects can help us in ways we can only understand if we have achieved levels of consciousness that include them.  Yet, if a miracle happened to your brother or neighbor, whether you understood it to be a miracle or not, it still helps all, because we are all connected in the infinite aspects of our being.

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 5:26:35 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:

In the kind of science I used to do, we tended to have physical entities and fairytales.  It was all far more complex than this, but we used to ask questions like 'have you ever met infinity' - concepts like infinity became not real but mathematical structures with no physical meaning at all but with essential role in approximation of finite reality.

Gods, souls and much else we talk about in here are fairytales in this sense of not being physical entities.  In what way can they help us as, say, the mathematical structures of the very small and very large in my kind of science (structural realism)?  I don't find a lot of religion helpful at all, more or less on the lines of Tom Paine, yet do think there are pre-real structures that could help us live better.  Anyone any fresh ideas on what these might be?

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