The better things are important Molly, though I note, in a septic tank, the really big chunks rise to the top. Not well today - tummy bug of some kind. Science is obviously corrupt. I guess the hope is it can spot the junk work, but social science probably runs at 99% junk and hard science 90% irrelevant to what needs doing. Tony might be able to tell us something similar on art - but it is hard to work out what will be innovative and useful.
On Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:37:31 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:
-- This is typical of attempts to explain that uncertainty remains in science.
The underlying "philosophy" is the view that there are real structures in the world which are "pictured" or represented, in an approximate fashion, by mathematical structures, symbolically PT = W (−) MT. The mathematical theory MT used in a physical theory PT contains as its core a "species of structure" Σ. This is a meta-mathematical concept of Bourbaki which Ludwig introduced into the structuralistic approach. The contact between MT to some "domain of reality" W is achieved by a set of correspondence principles (−), which give rules for translating physical facts into certain mathematical statements called "observational reports". These facts are either directly observable or given by means of other physical theories, called "pre-theories" of PT. In this way a part G of W, called "basic domain" is constructed. But it remains a task of the theory to construct the full domain of reality W, that is, the more complete description of the basic domain that also uses PT-theoretical terms
The underlying "philosophy" is the view that there are real structures in the world which are "pictured" or represented, in an approximate fashion, by mathematical structures, symbolically PT = W (−) MT. The mathematical theory MT used in a physical theory PT contains as its core a "species of structure" Σ. This is a meta-mathematical concept of Bourbaki which Ludwig introduced into the structuralistic approach. The contact between MT to some "domain of reality" W is achieved by a set of correspondence principles (−), which give rules for translating physical facts into certain mathematical statements called "observational reports". These facts are either directly observable or given by means of other physical theories, called "pre-theories" of PT. In this way a part G of W, called "basic domain" is constructed. But it remains a task of the theory to construct the full domain of reality W, that is, the more complete description of the basic domain that also uses PT-theoretical terms
Anyone staying for my review of Bourbaki, N., 1986, Theory of Sets (Elements of Mathematics), Paris: Hermann - on 'species of structure'! I was wondering how an all round recognition fo fairytales might help us recognise what we are trying to make sense of - maybe even to break the arrogance Tony refers to. My long term feeling is most argument is screwed by early false assumptions and failure to remember we are always approximating.
There's also something about the point at which cover up and denial collapses. The Mormons have finally admitted John Smith was a serial and teen shagger. I'd rather wonder on how we might identify positive fairy story structures that don't require super-literacy.
On Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:37:31 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:
"Anyone any fresh ideas on what these might be?"We might be screwed.Any core belief system, religious or science, that puts mankind at the center of the universe is doomed. It gives us the arrogance to propel us into oblivion.
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