Re: Mind's Eye The fairytale entities

Yes Molly - and in principle the being in the supercritical carbon dioxide is similar to the introspection and higher plane rendered 'objective'.  That being's origin would be arachnid in creation, but it would not need to be a spider as the Kug might have designed its DNA otherwise from scratch.

On Friday, November 21, 2014 4:06:44 PM UTC, Molly wrote:

Your spider webs:  http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/11/141119084506.htm

On Friday, November 21, 2014 3:50:22 AM UTC-5, Allan Heretic wrote:

Kug Baake  hmm Sue is probably right.. the name difficult to remember probably due to not having heard the words before. Looked up Kug Baake on online and came up with an obituary notice out of New York for a lady named Linda (question is did ™ kill her?) oh a working spider God..  does our spider God spin webs to catch pedophiles? And other bad people?

Spider webs should be very effective in catching criminals. Does kung baake eat what it traps in its web  Or is our God a hunting spider like a tarantula?

لا القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد أو إيذاء الآخرين
Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others

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Subject: Re: Mind's Eye The fairytale entities

What I pondered in asking this thread question was whether we could create a 'working god' as a real thing.  One might imagine an alien race that did this.  I have them as the Kug Baake (Sue says this name will never fly).  They live as a collective in Bootes having built a rational life form that lives in supercritical carbon dioxide (this has the properties of both liquid and gas and is a better medium for life than water) half-a-mile beneath their sea.  Bootes is the galaxy pointed to by the last bit of the Big Dipper's handle, containing Arcturus the third brightest star from here (a red giant).  

The 'being' in supercritical carbon dioxide (73 times atmospheric pressure at a balmy 84 degrees Fahrenheit) provides a centre for telekinesis and rational fellowship.  Though the Baake look like insects to us, they developed from social spiders.  All adults look the same, are post-libidinal (so we are libids), regard fashion as puerile and live far more individual lives in their fellowship than we can imagine on of cloning, copying notions of the kool.

On Tuesday, 18 November 2014 11:03:45 UTC, archytas wrote:

Much sympathy with that Tony.  There's a shed-load we'd need to understand on motivation in such a situation.  I even wonder whether the metal men would form a union in robot heaven.

Given that we can now embody much work in technology, I have little doubt much we now regard as politics and leadership should be.  Much of our current ways of doing stuff reminds me of situations like:

1. Paint me a mural mate.

2. You say OK.

3. Some days later you come back and say 'I need some paint and glue'.

4. End of project due to 'resourcing issues'.

Veblen made a big split between what we can do as a society of workers, engineers, artists (whatever) and the business control of these abilities through money.  I understand this in as far as I'll admit to being an economist (these academic disciplines all remind me of rule learning in such as poker, board games or sport and religion).  But much of the 'reasoning' reminds me of a scene in a witch-trial film.

1. You are accused of being a witch because you ate Fred's dog.

2. Fred's dog walks through the court wagging tail.

3. You say this proves you are not a witch because clearly no one ate the dawg.

4. They burn you as a witch because only a witch could eat a dog and leave it alive.

1. We need more jawbs and groaf for a successful economy.

2. Jawbs-groaf-burn-the-planet will kill us all.

3. Burn the heretic - jawbs-groaf is our dominant fairytale and may not be challenged by reasonable people.

The Inquisition meets in various guises today, usually called the G20.  

On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:46:08 AM UTC, facilitator wrote:

There is also the schizophrenic society that votes people into office and then is bewildered when they act and do counter to what the people wanted.  

As a human race we now have more communication than ever with an equal reciprocal amount of misunderstanding.

My first act would be to not elect any career politician.   Payment of wages would be made upon successes of elected official.  If the projects they involve themselves with do well they get a percentage of the contracts.   They also would have to still hold a part time regular job so as to not lose touch with the people who have dirt under their fingernails instead of caviare between their forefinger and thumb.

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