AW, how sweet. Mutual back exercise for the benefit of joints in a mate number? Much the same being said by the dogs about the benefits their walks bring to me. We're going down
to the river today and then along to the village in which the industrial revolution stated before trotting off to a site of spectacular scientific interest (old seeds trapped in sandstone). Sandwiches and coffee near the sign that explains the science. Dogs shun the coffee so I can offer to share that. Butties usually sniffed out and purloined before I remember I have them. I shall think of you doing a helpful stint on the treadmill. Mabel usually emerges from the woods near there. She's a Great Dane. Max is awestruck. He could get a week's exercise running between you on the treadmill and Mabel. I may set up a simulation this afternoon. Missing you already, as they say.
-- to the river today and then along to the village in which the industrial revolution stated before trotting off to a site of spectacular scientific interest (old seeds trapped in sandstone). Sandwiches and coffee near the sign that explains the science. Dogs shun the coffee so I can offer to share that. Butties usually sniffed out and purloined before I remember I have them. I shall think of you doing a helpful stint on the treadmill. Mabel usually emerges from the woods near there. She's a Great Dane. Max is awestruck. He could get a week's exercise running between you on the treadmill and Mabel. I may set up a simulation this afternoon. Missing you already, as they say.
Actually, I'm quite serious about the prison numbers as a gender issue. Somehow starting from farce might preclude some of the dafter things we get serious about like 'there is no crime in Bahrain' - which looks different when you know the 10,000 seater jail is full.
On Wednesday, 26 November 2014 16:29:20 UTC, Gabby wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 November 2014 16:29:20 UTC, Gabby wrote:
Hm, I meant mate number as in: hey, we're best buddys , I hear your back hurts from your hard work, let me help you with the lawn, some exercise will do my back good too.
Am 26.11.2014 16:41 schrieb "archytas" <nwterry@gmail.com>:No Idea what the male number is Gabby - is it a bit like the opposite of what those women hanging around newsrooms do? I am male I'm afraid, so am stuck with such as my feet not being the first thing I see looking down in the shower. Of course, I'm old enough now to be more concerned about keeping my feet working. For the record, the thinking itself indestructible younger me would have taken on Mike Brown going forward, believing some young big punk couldn't hack a fit rugby league player half his size. Sorry to be so shrill my dear. I never made new man status, believing women capable of seeing through such crude deceptions, even as they fell wildly under the strategy. We might consider what the reaction would have been had Brown been shot by an 8 stone female cop like my ex-partner Mary. I'll get back in the kitchen and shut the door so you can't hear me being shrill then me dear. At least you are admitting we men can count these days, even if we do our number in shrill voice.--Je vous adresse mon très amical souvenir chaleureusement, comme meme.
On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 2:21:40 PM UTC, Gabby wrote:Your class consciousness is very well audible. When you do the mate number you still need to tone down a lot. It sounds shrill, Neil.
Some interesting views at the Post Gabby. I'm generally not keen to extrapolate from criminal mentalities on social problems, yet these problems almost must be multi-faceted and thus not amenable to fascist analysis through slogan. Much of my experience with black people came through cricket (great) and being a cop (good, bad, indifferent) or university teacher (as stupid and unreliable as the rest of the class?). A university friend took me to his village in what was then Zaire. I can only say any discussion I've heard on ethnic rights since is so constrained by political correctness slogans as to be both fascist and based on presenting the face of Goody-two-shoes.--Rage against the machine? Not well directed if true - and I feel it is. I'm amazed there isn't more rage generally. I'd work with what I've seen of Darren Wilson ahead of the looters for sure - yet I always wondered why cops like me and him had to do the public order thing for the Establishment without much consideration. This had me defending the right of some Nazi to parade through Stockport.The idea that any human beings are less racist on race grounds is so dumb only someone with a PC infection could come up with it. And much as I don't like the figures on prison populations I'm sick of race explanations. Men are imprisoned far more than women. Let's make that a gender rights issue!!Obama is white Tony - just one of the mobiles in my black brush collection.
On Wednesday, 26 November 2014 12:10:36 UTC, Molly wrote:Detroit retail never fully recovered from the 67 riots created by the same kind of circumstance. The stores that closed having lost everything with no faith that it wouldn't keep happening. The racial divide has played out here in many horrendous ways over the years, including a "black power" city government being instructed by the mayor to do no business with white owned companies. The ethnocentrism was finally the demise of the exclusionary government that fell into deep corruption and bankruptcy. I see both sides and neither are healthy until the city is seen as a whole including all and part of the rest of the world. Through all of it, it has somehow remained a driving force in global economy and culture. Tribal societies no longer function on large scale and examples of this can be seen all over the world. The reluctance of each of us to see beyond color and history lies at the heart of the problem. Grace Lee Boggs fascinates me because her story runs the gamut of descent, rebel, revolutionary, community leader that unites, finding her way from divisive messages to unifying actions.
On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:29:24 PM UTC-5, facilitator wrote:The anger I can partially understand since the messiah in the White House has had little or negative impact on the average black in "Partially United States". The seething rage comes from many, many years of disproportionate treatment and does not need much to surface.I don't really understand how looting helps the cause. I know unequivocally when there is a crime being committed people call police and not looting mobs to come help.Maybe the North Koreans can show us what true peace is in the happy place of the Great Leader!
On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:20:45 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:Much is fit only for ridicule Gabby. As for the positive pounding, my best friend likes those loud Japanese drums as a prelude to a few beers. Quite how we get to sense talk instead of newsroom madness has troubled me forever, as I'm sure you know.I'd have been expected to take Michael Brown down unarmed - something of a mismatch at 168 versus 290 pounds and a routine Salford Saturday night. I guess I could have run away until the pink slime and doughnuts tired him out and I could get a tow-truck to transport him to the Crescent. Even armed I tended not to shoot people, fearing weeks of paper work more than the odd knife graze. Quite why cops were supposed to put their bodies on the line instead of just shooting bad guys I'm not sure.I don't get the race thing at all, here or in the US other than as Tony says. Smacking a cop in the mouth seems pretty 'racist' to me. The US situation looks a lot like Northern Ireland to me - the Catholics had genuine civil rights issues there on housing, jobs and lousy treatment. These were not addressed directly either. The investigation into Wilson's actions look reasonable and speedy compared with here and much more open. This seems to no avail.One very noticeable thing in the US investigations is knowledge of the limitations of cops accounts of their shootings on such as the number of rounds fired and recall ability. Here our cops are taught to parrot the Manual of Guidance on the care with which each shot is aimed and fired with perfect memory. And our cops are allowed to refuse to answer questions and collude on answers. Thus our cops lie to make their stories look like the textbook and match each other. I don't get the logic of 'black guy dead, burn Tottenham or Ferguson'. Or that of 'the Establishment is corrupt, cure this by lynching a cop who has shot a crook'.
On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:34:07 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:The media consistently wanted this to be about race. It wasn't. Change the demographics of either the cop or the deceased and this story would not have been in the news at all. The problem is the premiss. Our system allows a Grand Jury to decide if charges are to be rendered.I have been on two Grand Juries and we all took these matters very seriously.
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