I have been also thinking about your question for quite a while. On 1/6/2013 I started a topic called "the language of thinking" . You can search for this topic using the search field above or go to the link below.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/minds-eye/andrew$20vecsey/minds-eye/C2uQaHVaMPU/dG1pFXlIkPUJ
My question to the members was......
Whenever I think, I seem to be talking to myself, I can think about something in my memory by imagining and reliving sensations I remember, but whenever I think about those memories, I ultimately revert to talking to my self (up to now, fortunately silently). Do others in this group of thinkers have the same experience? If yes, why do you think that it is like that? If not, how do you manage to think without mentally talking it out?
Thoughts-words-thoughts is a cycle that reinforces itself.
I got some interesting comments that made me think about it more and get new insights that I didn`t have before.....like
I suppose dance would be like body language. You raise a very interesting point for me about music Gabby. Sometimes when I am in the right frame of mind, I can think of music and I am able to hear (in my mind) the music, hearing all the notes being played in detail. At those times, when I think of music with lyrics, I can hear (in my mind) the words of the song even though I can not remember the words normally. Kind of strange. Has anyone else experienced that? I suppose it is a kind of photographic memory retrieval. But what I meant to discuss in this post is that if I want to think about the music or about the dance... maybe to critique it or to analyze it, I find that I can not do that without articulating the thoughts in my mind with words. I wonder if others have found the same thing.
Perhaps thinking can be divided into 2 kinds; emotional and logical. Emotional thinking includes imagining, fantasizing and remembering. Logical thinking includes pondering, contemplating, reasoning, problem solving, analyzing, planning, desiring, admiring, and criticizing. I personally need the language of monologue (talking to myself) for the logical type of thinking only. For the emotional type of thinking, I find feeling is enough.
"For a computer, feelings are algorithms that are programed. Programmed emotions are as easy to see thru them as faked emotions of humans are."
On Monday, December 29, 2014 5:26:58 PM UTC+1, pol.science kid wrote:
-- https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/minds-eye/andrew$20vecsey/minds-eye/C2uQaHVaMPU/dG1pFXlIkPUJ
My question to the members was......
Whenever I think, I seem to be talking to myself, I can think about something in my memory by imagining and reliving sensations I remember, but whenever I think about those memories, I ultimately revert to talking to my self (up to now, fortunately silently). Do others in this group of thinkers have the same experience? If yes, why do you think that it is like that? If not, how do you manage to think without mentally talking it out?
Thoughts-words-thoughts is a cycle that reinforces itself.
"About 18,000 years ago, man started to use words to display his emotions. Words helped man to think and enabled him to articulate and share his inner most thoughts. Pictures and written words enabled his thoughts and his knowledge to be stored for later contemplation and to be scattered like seed to grow. This cultivation, communication and sharing of thoughts, knowledge and experience resulted in the growth of agriculture that enabled civilizations to flourish."
I got some interesting comments that made me think about it more and get new insights that I didn`t have before.....like
I suppose dance would be like body language. You raise a very interesting point for me about music Gabby. Sometimes when I am in the right frame of mind, I can think of music and I am able to hear (in my mind) the music, hearing all the notes being played in detail. At those times, when I think of music with lyrics, I can hear (in my mind) the words of the song even though I can not remember the words normally. Kind of strange. Has anyone else experienced that? I suppose it is a kind of photographic memory retrieval. But what I meant to discuss in this post is that if I want to think about the music or about the dance... maybe to critique it or to analyze it, I find that I can not do that without articulating the thoughts in my mind with words. I wonder if others have found the same thing.
Perhaps thinking can be divided into 2 kinds; emotional and logical. Emotional thinking includes imagining, fantasizing and remembering. Logical thinking includes pondering, contemplating, reasoning, problem solving, analyzing, planning, desiring, admiring, and criticizing. I personally need the language of monologue (talking to myself) for the logical type of thinking only. For the emotional type of thinking, I find feeling is enough.
"For a computer, feelings are algorithms that are programed. Programmed emotions are as easy to see thru them as faked emotions of humans are."
On Monday, December 29, 2014 5:26:58 PM UTC+1, pol.science kid wrote:
I have a question.. when we recall sounds... or say something in our head... i mean i talk in my head continuously.. how does it happen? i mean the words are pronounced correct right?.. but without sound... in our heads... even when we recall images.. we dont particularly have to close our eyes do we.. Does anyone know how it happens?Or when we write we say it in our heads first... so weird when you pay attention to it closely...
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