We live in one generally Allan. Anthropology finds them everywhere. Some guys live in dire fear of menstrual fluids. With us its economics and RP's demons from drops of blood, the divine right of kinds (now rich creeps) and various chosen people myths. The cold objective voice some confuse with science. Meritocracy is another part. Lack of imagination and the grim certainty of the teenage phase made permanent. Stupid stories perpetuated around mosques that an Islamic girl must remain pure for the wonderful man who has been exploiting non-Muslim girls because this is what god put them here for. That wars were started by 'nasty Germans'. Today's classics are PR statements on 'learning lessons' - we have an utter classic here on child abuse in Rotherham, where the reality is they disbanded the only agency providing any help and have refused to create another, as kids still see their abusers touring about in cars. RP could no doubt tell us some of the realities of that fine, upstanding, peaceful, civilizing British Empire. Individual therapy (much as I'm a believer) in a world gone mad. Cover stories fto prevent the action needed, render the real problems invisible by pretending to treat them.
On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 4:12:18 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
-- On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 4:12:18 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
Just what do you call a cover story Neil.
تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
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Subject: Re: Mind's Eye GodSometimes, Molly, we need to find what it is we need to reveal to get people to drop the cover-story.--
On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 12:45:45 PM UTC, Molly wrote:Our stories do own us Neil, in one way or another, until we are ready to let them go. Many Shamans let their "patients" take the drugs while they follow along in awareness without the need of one. Changing states like this requires the abandonment of mental constructs, including belief.
On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 12:08:53 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:There might be some future in exploring the digital flows Andrew. Perspectives might be a bit like programs or flow in thermo-dynamics - some pathways possible others not. Allan's 'it is always your perspective' seems compellingly logical - but I suspect it cannot be (much logic spirals up its own place of special darkness).I'm trying to write a story that seems relevant. Two old cops are getting drunk and eating curry discussing an old child abuse case as they get on with a current one. It's easy to keep this in the detective fiction genre, tough to explore the reality they cover up as they recognise detectives don't solve crimes. They were, after all, "detectives" when all the CSE cover ups took place. What was their role in that? What shift in perspective has come now they are investigating both current abuse cases and the old cover up? What was the real victim perspective? Where is the perspective - in the individual or society or both? Who or what didn't care as thousands of kids went through hell? One might later wonder whether "spirituality" lets us avoid such reality - in this case the hard-boiled attitudes of the cops being the spirituality.
On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 11:25:33 AM UTC, andrew vecsey wrote:It is not as simple as a "yes" or "no".
It can be "yes" for my reality and "no" for yours. Or "yes" for in the past and "no" for in the future and "maybe" for in the present moment. Or "Yes" for here and "no" for there..
Or "I don`t know" or "I don`t care" .
On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 3:29:43 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote:One needs to begin with what what is common. . Forgetting the d&d. ¿Does God exist in some form? That is a yes or no question. Nothing more.
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