Yesterday in the ballroom we were honored to witness the local Pulitzer Prize winning local news editor (for his coverage on the Detroit bankruptcy) interview the former Detroit Emergency Manager Kevin Orr who guided the city out of bankruptcy, before he leaves town to become the new EM of Jersey Shores, NJ. It was quite a conversation and kept bumping into the topic of racism (well, it is Detroit). It is well known that before the bankruptcy and imprisonment of the former Mayor, the prevailing attitude of the Detroit City Council was to exclude white owned companies from doing business in the city. Because the city is still 70% African American (with a rapidly changing demographic) and saddled with a painful past in race relations, I suspect this will be an ongoing conversation for generations. But I was happy to see former Mayor Dave Bing get much of the credit for laying the foundation for an exit from bankruptcy as he is the man that restored integrity to the office of mayor and brought a world-centric business platform to the city stage. That is what it took. It was not about who is smarter or darker or lighter. It is about putting the right people in the jobs to get it done and lift everyone out of bankruptcy and poverty with solid business practice. I hear the race card played loudly all of the time by bullies and muckrakers. But those people also act out of fear, the basis of hate and all of the other attitudes of separation that lead to racism. Leaders (or cops) that learn to look beyond all that and let it roll off can get the job done (although they might age more rapidly in the process.) Leaders that can unify.
On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 2:06:30 AM UTC-5, archytas wrote:
-- On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 2:06:30 AM UTC-5, archytas wrote:
What gets to me is we know racism is wrong, but do little to get rid of it. Don said something about upbringing on g+ - and it struck me as interesting, perhaps in reverse reasoning, that we have little control over it as individuals and that parents or care can be seriously disabling. We could have a wider and more open form of community care and education.
On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 6:30:27 AM UTC, archytas wrote:Not sure about the first part, but right on on the aspirations RP. I suspect we need to realise something nasty in the biology of leadership we need to understand and bring under better control.
On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 6:01:26 AM UTC, RP Singh wrote:We are evolving and becoming better and kinder people. I hope that in recent times to come extremism and intolerance become things of the past. Humanity must rise above sectarian and parochial issues.On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:20 AM, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:Superiority is a big part as RP says. Religions of 'chosen people' don't help. Primitive societies are very violent and easy to exploit. 'Whitey' is just top of the ple now - in longer history this hasn't been true. India still has the caste system, and in fairly recent history was dominated by 'Islam' - the 'racial' tensions of this still exist.
On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 01:29:21 UTC, RP Singh wrote:Molly , who is racist in the States , the colored people living in fear in ghettos? Are those who are being abused racists or those who are abusing? Who were the racists in South Africa , the hordes of blacks living in fear of handful of whites , fighting for equal rights ,equal opportunities , recognition and respect? No Molly you have got it wrong , it is arrogance that is behind racism , the arrogance that we have superior color , superior intelligence , superior civilization and superiority of force!On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Molly <mollyb363@gmail.com> wrote:I'm not back yet but miss you all so much. Racism is about fear, fear of not having enough, fear of getting hurt, fear of what is different. Racism isn't the only diversion of the pathological liar, but in a racist culture, it is often the first best punch. It is all about conflict which is why it is an effective weapon. Anyone who does not hold racism in their viewpoint sees through the absurdity of it. Anyone who as outgrown an ethnocentric world view sees past the ruse, but that does not mean the race card is not played effectively in circumstance filled with fear.The only souls that have responsibility are those who have not transcended karma. They are their own cops. (paradox)overt racism is as prevalent as fear all over the world.I hope Chris is back to stay.I hope Francis will be inspired and also return.Black people don't have lower IQs. Children born into poverty have lower IQs
On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 6:32:36 AM UTC-5, archytas wrote:Welcome back Molly. I felt so lost in the Mollygone I made Gabby temporarily into you. She was very accommodating. Chris is making a lot of sense, making me very nervous!1. Racism hasn't gone away in any of us. It lurks in biology. Many learn the correct rhetoric, but nothing about the 'underneath'.2. If souls have responsibility we need some transcendental cops.3. Overt racism remains in many countries around the world.Chris is right about the treatment of black people. But what do you say to a black bloke accusing you of racism as a cop when the reason you are talking to him is because he is carrying a car radio in his underpants? Or the mother in a Pakistani heritage community claiming you are racist because you have arrested her son and husband for the street grooming and rape of a white kid?4. The issue is tougher to resolve than we put up in argument. Racism is about exploitation. If black people as a group have low average IQs, are we likely not to exploit them in a world in which people are generally exploited for this, in an education-based "meritocracy"?
On Monday, 26 January 2015 12:44:51 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:Your soul is responsible for your actions
تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
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From: Gabby <gabbydott@gmail.com>
To: minds-eye@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye RacismNot strange at all how you bend moral and knowledge. A soul by its very nature cannot justify, it is a holistic concept.--
Am Samstag, 24. Januar 2015 20:32:06 UTC+1 schrieb Allan Heretic:Strange how a soul justifies what it knows to be immoral.
تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
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From: Chris Jenkins <digitalp...@gmail.com>
To: Minds-Eye <mind...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye RacismOf course there, Fac, but we're not talking about real thuggishness; we're talking about a crafted media message."But isn't it funny how quickly young black men become "thugs" post mortem."Trayvon Martin was never a thug until he was dead at George Zimmerman's hands.--On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 2:23 PM, 'facilitator' via "Minds Eye" <mind...@googlegroups.com> wrote:Got everything but the "Post mortem Black thugs.There are thugs in all varieties.--
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