Re: Mind's Eye Racism

None of us are really here to stay, given the transient nature of life, but I've missed the chance to explore big topics with big brains. G+ gives me more of that than any other social network, but this list has spawned some of the most enlightening conversations I've ever been a part of. 

And yes, class has far more to do with your chances in life than skin color or gender. I'd rather be Oprah Winfrey than a West Virginia coal miner (nearly invariably white and poor). 

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Molly <mollyb363@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm not back yet but miss you all so much. Racism is about fear, fear of not having enough, fear of getting hurt, fear of what is different. Racism isn't the only diversion of the pathological liar, but in a racist culture, it is often the first best punch. It is all about conflict which is why it is an effective weapon. Anyone who does not hold racism in their viewpoint sees through the absurdity of it. Anyone who as outgrown an ethnocentric world view sees past the ruse, but that does not mean the race card is not played effectively in circumstance filled with fear.

The only souls that have responsibility are those who have not transcended karma. They are their own cops. (paradox)

overt racism is as prevalent as fear all over the world.

I hope Chris is back to stay.

I hope Francis will be inspired and also return.

Black people don't have lower IQs.  Children born into poverty have lower IQs

On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 6:32:36 AM UTC-5, archytas wrote:

Welcome back Molly.  I felt so lost in the Mollygone I made Gabby temporarily into you.  She was very accommodating.   Chris is making a lot of sense, making me very nervous!  

1. Racism hasn't gone away in any of us.  It lurks in biology.  Many learn the correct rhetoric, but nothing about the 'underneath'.

2. If souls have responsibility we need some transcendental cops.

3. Overt racism remains in many countries around the world.

Chris is right about the treatment of black people.  But what do you say to a black bloke accusing you of racism as a cop when the reason you are talking to him is because he is carrying a car radio in his underpants?  Or the mother in a Pakistani heritage community claiming you are racist because you have arrested her son and husband for the street grooming and rape of a white kid?

4. The issue is tougher to resolve than we put up in argument.  Racism is about exploitation.  If black people as a group have low average IQs, are we likely not to exploit them in a world in which people are generally exploited for this, in an education-based "meritocracy"?

On Monday, 26 January 2015 12:44:51 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:

Your soul is responsible for your actions

تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

-----Original Message-----
From: Gabby <gabbydott@gmail.com>
To: minds-eye@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Racism

Not strange at all how you bend moral and knowledge. A soul by its very nature cannot justify, it is a holistic concept.

Am Samstag, 24. Januar 2015 20:32:06 UTC+1 schrieb Allan Heretic:

Strange how a soul justifies what it knows to be immoral.

تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Jenkins <digitalp...@gmail.com>
To: Minds-Eye <mind...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Racism

Of course there, Fac, but we're not talking about real thuggishness; we're talking about a crafted media message. 

"But isn't it funny how quickly young black men become "thugs" post mortem."

Trayvon Martin was never a thug until he was dead at George Zimmerman's hands. 

On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 2:23 PM, 'facilitator' via "Minds Eye" <mind...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Got everything but the "Post mortem Black thugs.

There are thugs in all varieties.  

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