Re: Mind's Eye Re: Consciousness

There are always new thougts to ponder.  My life hs been a bit hectic recently ir is good to see new names in the contributers

تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

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From: mehlisue <mehlisue@gmail.com>
To: minds-eye@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, 01 Feb 2015 4:00 AM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Consciousness

LOL  I so enjoyed the conversation Archytas.  Maybe it was the walk in
the park like the dogs.  Thank you for the interchange. you give me a
some thought to ponder.


On 1/31/15, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:
> Delightful Sue.  It's dawn here, so I'm a few minutes away from dogs
> fussing about their walk.  Max will pounce on me as I reach for my boots
> and then insist on 'conversation' all the way to the park.  Then he will
> run off about a mile to the top of a hill, king of all he surveys.  We
> should be organising life for moments like this, but I fear we don't.  I
> think a lot of what is broken is business and why we engage with it.
>
> On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 6:51:34 AM UTC, Sue Linda wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Archytas for the welcome.  Indeed "How we achieve that seems
>> the difficulty."  In simple terms, it is a bowl of twisted spaghetti
>> noodles and difficult to sort threw.  Not impossible, but difficult as
>> one has to look at self and that is not pleasant many times.  I reason
>> from my own experience, that one does not take on that journey until
>> they reach a place of "brokenness" and actually reach out and ask that
>> power of life for help and guidance. In my own experience, that has
>> not been supplied by any man ruled spiritual belief system.  Such is
>> constructed by ego of each leader who expresses their own thoughts by
>> their own life experience and others agree and follow what such a
>> leader expresses.  Starting again the entire cycle of living life by
>> the group experience based on the reality on one or in some cases
>> several individuals.  It would reason then, that there is ONE being
>> needed and be far removed from human influence that would guide and
>> instruct for that individual as they need.  Each person being just a
>> part of a puzzle and only a piece of the puzzle, can not see the
>> completed picture.  I would then reason that then the ability to
>> become compassionate to all humans knowing we are all in the same
>> state and all are a part of the whole picture would only begin to show
>> a candle flicker of light to change. The possible beginning to such a
>> event could be reasoned as a "virus" if I may use that example.
>> Compassion, love, has a stronger influence on the elements of this
>> planet.  Such were the experiments of Dr. Masaru Emoto's effects of
>> positive emotions and negative emotions on enviroment including other
>> humans.  It could be a reason that to return good to evil was given
>> and as well, that there is no Law against love.
>>
>> On 1/31/15, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Welcome Sue.  Interesting points.  Have to agree your statement on the
>> > point of compassion.  How we achieve that seems the difficulty.  I often
>> >
>> > think we could live more as we organise school, though without some of
>> the
>> > overbearing teachers I remember and with better control of the bullies.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 6:22:15 AM UTC, Sue Linda wrote:
>> >>
>> >> consider  consciousness.  The endless pursuit of humanity all threw
>> >> history.  To find such, is a inner exploring of who resides inside the
>> >>
>> >> body
>> >> you call self.  There is no standard to  consciousness for the life of
>> >>
>> >> each
>> >> has experienced very different events in life that taught them to
>> perceive
>> >>
>> >> their own reality and truth by such.  It would seem to reason than that
>> >>
>> to
>> >>
>> >> actually find truth in  consciousness is to realize that in this school
>> >>
>> of
>> >>
>> >> life on this planet, is designed to teach each by experience.  Than in
>> >>
>> a
>> >> twist of learning this of self and that others are also no different
>> than
>> >>
>> >> you other than the experience, I would think that the only thing left
>> to
>> >> say is have compassion on all, for we do not create our own life until
>> >>
>> we
>> >>
>> >> realize that this is true.  I would also state, that once you come to a
>> >>
>> >> place of compassion for All humans, than the release of seeing
>> differences
>> >>
>> >> is dissolved.  Life then can begin for the first time as the self then
>> >>
>> >> would choose to live each day without remembrance to the past
>> experience.
>> >>
>> >>  Without past recall, then future projections are absent for there is
>> >> nothing that can be judged by past experience.   Consciousness then
>> would
>> >>
>> >> be a daily revealing met with a world of no expectation of evil or of
>> >> good.
>> >>  Like a child who just lives in the moment.
>> >>
>> >> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 7:05:54 PM UTC-6, RP Singh wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Suppose there had been no consciousness and the entire world had been
>> >>>
>> >>> there but all unconscious , what would be the Truth? Just death ,
>> nothing
>> >>>
>> >>> else. Consciousness is what makes life , a proof that there is
>> something
>> >>>
>> >>> which exists , Existence itself and not death. Look at the stars , the
>> >>>
>> >>> solar system , if it had self-direction where would we be? It all
>> obeys
>> >>> laws and that is the reason for order in the universe and not chaos.
>> What
>> >>>
>> >>> would humanity have been if we were not bound by our nature , no laws
>> >>>
>> of
>> >>>
>> >>> biology , psychology , etc. , no predictability , no comfort that we
>> >>> would
>> >>> return to our homes at night ,no assurance that we would return home
>> from
>> >>>
>> >>> work . Unpredictability is still there but it is minor , mostly there
>> >>>
>> is
>> >>>
>> >>> satisfaction and assurance of well-being.
>> >>>
>> >>
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