That works RP but we hardly have an education system bringing many up to modern speed or warning on hubris. The dams and irrigation systems for Afghanistan in the 50's actually did great harm because it all raised the water-table, raising salt to the surface and creating fields not good for food and ideal for poppies.
On Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:04:23 UTC, RP Singh wrote:
-- On Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:04:23 UTC, RP Singh wrote:
God's will works scientifically through laws and it is the job of scientists to discover these laws. Laws relating to behavior are being discovered as the study of psychology is expanding and it is through the knowledge of these laws we can help individuals to cope with their problems.On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:27 AM, Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com> wrote:Yes universe is governed by God's laws laws and will are two different things. Gods will says you shall not kill. This well known if God's must be done why are people being killed constantly?
تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
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From: RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com>
To: Minds Eye <minds-eye@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 1:30 AMSubject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: HistoryIf the universe were a part of God's being then by logic it would be under God's control , and you being a part of the universe would be under his control , that is,your will would be subject to God's will.--On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 2:37 AM, <allanh1946@gmail.com> wrote:I do not remember mentioning missing matter.. or missing anti-matter. What has to do with RP's valid question. Nothing is missing at all everything is there. . Ever consider that science does not know all the answers? Actually like science spirituality has far more questions than it has answers..
The question was a simple question of how i connected the universe as part of God's being.. that I tried to explain the best I could..
Buzz Lightyear quote.. to infinity and beyond.. it seems your science is not able to see beyond infinity.. nor can it see what happens to an electron in the nanosecond while it changes orbits. Or is it even the same electron. Far more is unknown than what is known...
I would have voted to get rid of the queen also.. with the British proceeds of crime act.. all british royalty are flat broke..
تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
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From: archytas <nwterry@gmail.com>
To: minds-eye@googlegroups.comSent: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: HistoryBrilliant! Postcards from friends on holiday with unicorns No one puts up with Allan - there is such a thing as masochism - but apart from this I could wear the rest, possibly at a fancy dress party. On the basis of god assertions, rocking horse droppings provide the 'missing matter'.--If we put aside the 'putting up with Allan' theory and my own madness on not wanting to be in a universe without his humour, biggy bang is a zero sum. Zero returns to zero over time. Zero, like infinity may come in different sizes and is one of many unicorn notions in mathematics, as fictional, but not as good with a sword, as Zorro.The missing matter and energy we currently call "dark" (96%) arises from assumptions (unicorn) of a universe flying apart faster than gravity (unicorn) should be allowing it to and lack of enough matter we can see to explain other gravitational effects we can see. It all gets back to concepts like whether Allan is interested in Hinduism per se or pretty ladies evincing it; or both! It's all about "exotic matters" in the end Al.We have not had free will since inhaling the pheromones of the slaver ants that run the planet. Don't you guys read the physics papers I post links to in full expectation that you will. Einstein's field equations as modified by dark matter and energy were in the one by Ma and Wong, making Allan's question irrelevant to everyone else in class who bothered to read the paper. Or was it Mo and Wang?
On Sunday, 18 January 2015 16:21:40 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:A lady friend in India who is really into Hinduism and puts up with me has taught me alot about her beliefs.. if I would chose to differences are easy to find. When it comes to beliefs including mine are not much more than a bunch of circus monkeys included.
Mostly it is perspective.. especially when it comes to beliefs. You have to take everything into consideration. To the question. In Hinduism as I understand it everything comes from the uncreated God and returns to the uncreated God. I have no problems with that idea..
Now from a scientific perspective the laws say that you can neither create nor destroy matter only change to a different form but it still exists in some manner ¿God's law?
This brings up an interesting question created by the big bang theory ... where did all the matter that is contained within the total universe come from. No violating known and mostly some what provable laws. (Starting point)
Now making an ass out of you and me we can assume this law to be valid and true the question comes down to where did all of the matter contained within the known universe come from????
The answer I found is the same as the one found in Hinduism everything comes from and returns to the uncreated God ..
Now that I have stirred up the muddy water making everything as clear as mud. It is not a textbook answer.
تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
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From: RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com>
To: Minds Eye <minds-eye@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: HistoryAllan, would you care to tell me how the universe is part of God's being? Is this not some sort of bookish ranting?--On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 7:11 PM, <allanh1946@gmail.com> wrote:As for omnipotent is is often used i do not even see it in relationship with the uncreated God. Although used it just does not fit.. Why? God is not seperate from the universe. The universe is only part of God's being.
تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
-----Original Message-----From: RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com>
To: Minds Eye <minds-eye@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: HistoryAllan , man is free to do just as he wants to , but God being omnipotent has to sanction it beforehand , and that is what is predetermined , the will of God over and above the will of man.--On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 5:31 PM, <allanh1946@gmail.com> wrote:Am still trying to figure out you predestiny theory. To me it sounds like nothing more than someone trying to justify improper activites by blaming predestiny instead of taking responsibility.
You said the samething years ago blaming your beliefs.
Nice to read you here again maybe some of the other oldtimers will return also.
تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
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From: archytas <nwterry@gmail.com>
To: minds-eye@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: HistoryVery cunning RP - as ever.--
On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 6:19:43 AM UTC, RP Singh wrote:Thanks Neil. I just don't seem to elaborate , it is in the course of the discussions that the elaborations come out.On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 9:27 AM, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:This is rather similar to the maths of the other side of big bang RP. Assuming a big crunch after our expansion, which would lead to another big bang, what survives from this to the next? Quantum fluctuation was the answer in the maths, mind in your suggestion here. Neil Turok was a name in the papers I read, but ideas producing no answers seems the name of the game. More recently I've seen suggestions big bangs create another universe with time going 'backwards', known as the 'more than one future' approach. Others suggest biggle bang itself is fictional and arises from religious creationism we haven't managed to extirpate from our thinking - thus we should be thinking 'closer to home' on the constructors in a new thermodynamics of what pathways are possible and not. Examples of these constructors are factories and catalysts. Factories may be those familiar to us or ribosomes. Catalysts are more complex than the stuff of school chemistry.--Slime moulds have been interesting me recently. These are single-celled 'brainless' organisms we can only safely describe as neither plant nor animal. Yet they form networks as complex are our railway systems. We don't really know how they have the intelligence to search for food.Great stuff RP - but can you unwind it a bit more? In another sense, both of us have been rather biologically deterministic on 'brain producing mind' in human psychology.
On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 12:31:10 AM UTC, RP Singh wrote:The entire creation is predetermined , it is history.Before the big bang the history existed in the form of an idea in the singularity. With the big bang the history started manifesting itself as creation It is simply the unmanifest which is manifesting. And hence the evolution of the universe is just the mind which is manifesting itself.
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