Re: Mind's Eye Re: Delusions

I can also see the women's perspective. As a prostitute you get payed for delivering a presentational self and not a representation of or for self.

Am Montag, 9. Februar 2015 schrieb archytas :

People generally don't talk about what is happening to them like that Tony.  The academic language get so high falutin as to be part of the deception itself as a weird abstraction.  There are some obvious experiments we do, yet people go away imagining they saw through the illusion even though we make it plain they didn't.  Goffman was quite good in 'presentation of self' but the real trick would be getting people to talk about their own experience.  My excuse for seeing newsroom women as 'sex objects' is because they never deliver any news.  Some would see this as an old man's delusion, but I think an entirely different illusion is created.

I agree all your points and wonder how long the list would be.

On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 2:01:36 AM UTC, facilitator wrote:

Sorry to get back on topic but this interests me.

"How are delusions maintained, as in creationism, democracy, free trade, markets, the wars on drugs, terrorism and amongst cops, social workers and …."

Best way to maintain a delusion:

1)  Numerically.  Easier to maintain a delusion when it is held by a majority.

2)  Chronoligically.   It has been this way for….  Why would it be different now?

3)  Embellishment.   Add a bit of gravitas by associating the delusion with prominent figures, scientists, heads of religious orders etc.

4)  Hide its toxic nature.  Keep the poison palatable by mixing with enough truth in order to change its color or palatability.

5)  Multiplicity. Add a delusion to the delusion so the first delusion becomes less deniable.  

6)  Serial encryption.   Pack the delusion with a series of undeniable facts.

7)  Geographic lamination.   Move the context of the delusion so that it becomes difficult to challenge.  Example:  "Finish your vegetables there are children starving in China"

8)  Terminology disassociation.  When the government wants to hide it's killing of innocent civilians (example: Waco,TX) the name of the living quarters changes from school to "compound".

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