Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence

The seat warmers sound like an undergraduate class.  Yet education always promises the 'next place' where you get access to the inner sanctum and the 'light'.  Always reminds me of Tom trying to trap Jerry by pretending an empty book is riotously funny.  

The presence I often feel concerns where we might get to after recognition of religious diversity and common elements.  The standard statement is this:

"With respect to many, if not most issues, there exist significant differences of opinion among individuals who seem to be equally knowledgeable and sincere. Individuals who apparently have access to the same information and are equally interested in the truth affirm incompatible perspectives on, for instance, significant social, political, and economic issues. Such diversity of opinion, though, is nowhere more evident than in the area of religious thought. On almost every religious issue, honest, knowledgeable people hold significantly diverse, often incompatible beliefs."

It is somewhere after this I feel god.  

On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 5:34:47 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:

Oddly  some of the older churches actually keep their eyes open for the square pegs..  an example might be Mother Teresa who founded the sisters of charity.

Unfortunately most of the people are seat warmers.. you know the type . . Believe in God. Go to church and obey the rules don't question authority.. also known as the 1st level  of spirituality 

تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

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From: archytas <nwterry@gmail.com>
To: minds-eye@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence

All those round holes don't fit us square pegs well.

On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 2:29:02 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:

😈 wonder where i would fit..
Other than some goofy dogma and doctrine it can be an interesting culture..  everyone has their place..  sometimes it can seem out of place..  but that kind of depends on the churches religious view point.. 
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تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

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From: archytas <nwterry@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 3:11 PM
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Perhaps the attraction of religion is something better than the presence of beings being evaluated for economic worth.

On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 6:13:20 AM UTC, archytas wrote:

Religion is a Latin word.  Derrida lays out the etymology of the Latin word "religion" (he acknowledges that the etymology is problematic). The etymology implies that there are "two sources" of religion: "religio," which implies a holding back or a being unscathed, safe and sound; and "re-legere," which implies a linking up with another through faith  Deconstruction, never results in good conscience, in the good conscience that comes with thinking we have done enough to render justice. This is because unconditional hospitality is too dangerous and can only come with the return of the messiah - a presence of the future.

Faith (and the difficulties of it) as pol said, in other people, is very tricky.  I am not sure we could walk on water without the delusions of language that tells us we can't, yet think we could live without the delusions of propaganda.  And have always prevented children discovering fire burns by sticking their fingers in it.

On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 11:05:01 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:

Ah yes, Peter Sellers  in "Being There" shows that lack of words can transform the world around us.
 Never got his message to Raul, but walks on water because no one told him he couldn't.

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