The Logos is God,[Jn 1:1] as Thomas stated: "My Lord and my God."[20:28] Yet the Logos is in some sense distinguishable from God, for "the Logos was with God."[1:1] God and the Logos are not two beings, and yet they are also not simply identical. In contrast to the Logos, God can be conceived (in principle at least) also apart from his revelatory action─although we must not forget that the Bible speaks of God only in his revelatory action. The paradox that the Logos is God and yet it is in some sense distinguishable from God is maintained in the body of the Gospel. That God as he acts and as he is revealed does not "exhaust" God as he is, is reflected in sayings attributed to Jesus: I and the Father are one"[Jn 10:30] and also, "the Father is greater than I."[14:28] The Logos is God active in creation, revelation, and redemption. Jesus Christ not only gives God's Word to us humans; he is the Word.[1:14] [14:6] He is the true word─ultimate reality revealed in a Person. The Logos is God, distinguishable in thought yet not separable in fact.
-- No room for ego, arrogance or anything like it there.
On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 11:28:06 AM UTC-5, Allan Heretic wrote:
On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 11:28:06 AM UTC-5, Allan Heretic wrote:
Over the years the word of God in reality is the essence of God.. the essence of what is said.. just what the essence of God is.. i have no clue other than it does exist.
What i feel is of great importance is to change the perspective of just who or what God is.. one thing i am sure of is the common perspective is not working..
تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
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From: Molly <mollyb363@gmail.com>
To: minds-eye@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: PresenceIt isn't easy listening, authority imposed where there is none. I am not interested in anyone telling me what to do or how to view myself, and certainly am not looking for psychoanalysis. But I am interested in listening to others views when presented as their own, even when filled with dread and anger. I don't take it personally and wish the best for everyone....I am interested in the Logos...the beginning word...the word as God, or the meaning that passes between. You hit the nail on the head there, Allan.
On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 10:32:37 AM UTC-5, archytas wrote:That's rather close to Willard Quine Allan. The question is largely about who receives whom in arrogance. The ignorant are often the most arrogant of all.
On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 3:24:25 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:In christianity is the statement in the beginning was the word and the word was with God. Sound familiar?
I read that or hear statements like that what i hear is people that have no clue and presenting double talk to appear to have an answer. Further more they want no answer so any other possibility is automatically rejected.
So if a possibility is presented it is rejected because for no other reason than it does not fit your perception.
تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
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From: RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com>
To: Minds Eye <minds-eye@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: PresenceAllan I rejected this answer because without the answer to the first question it makes no sense.Allan, I don't know what you make of God's omnipotence, but for me he has the power to create without any raw material, unlike us poor people needing God made sperms and eggs to create a life.On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 7:39 PM, <allanh1946@gmail.com> wrote:RP how can you expect an answer when you automatically reject the answer you are given? Unless it fits the answer you want to hear..
Let me ask you a question. You say the universe was created from the word of God. What is contained within the Word of God that is able to create the matter needed to create our universe?
تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
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From: RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com>
To: Minds Eye <minds-eye@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: PresenceYou have referred to my second question , but what about the first.I don't understand how you draw the conclusion that God is speaking to us for nowhere you have given the incident purporting that he so spoke.On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Molly <mollyb363@gmail.com> wrote:Do you regard other people as God, RP?
On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 8:19:23 AM UTC-5, RP Singh wrote:Is it possible that you regard your late mentor as God and it was his voice you were talking about?On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Molly <mollyb363@gmail.com> wrote:It is an interesting notion to ponder, how does God speak to us? My friend and mentor recently spoke about it to all of his visitors before passing away last summer. I told him that if the measure of whether or not a person can hear God speaking is all of the good they have done in the world, then he had done some life long listening. He taught us all how to collaborate and build consensus, create systems and institutions that work for people, organize communities and make them good places to raise our families. Quite a lifetime achievement.
On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 10:27:21 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:Does the timetable show when the next train is coming Facil?
On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 2:27:14 AM UTC, facilitator wrote:First you say God is a spirit then you want me to give you times when God came down. Which?
On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 6:57:45 PM UTC-5, RP Singh wrote:Jesus, Mohammad were prophets, so tell us when God came down.On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:56 PM, 'facilitator' via "Minds Eye" <mind...@googlegroups.com> wrote:God comes "down" all the time. In
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