Certainly not RP. Only the bit about feeling linked to what you say on god was at all relevant to you. Tony raised the narc point and we do suggest some component of this may be necessary in creative living. That pathological individuals are attracted to self-development and religion and can actually be very dangerous was the point.
On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 7:50:51 AM UTC, RP Singh wrote:
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I hope, Neil, that you don't think that I am a narcissist.On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:57 AM, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:Thank you RP - I feel a link to what you say, though don't feel it necessary to define god.Tony raised narcissism, which we might connect to destiny.
One form of Narcissism is a little understood personality disorder which is increasingly showing up in our leaders across political, business, sporting, psychological and spiritual institutions. Indeed narcissism and narcissistic is increasingly being used to describe the mass cultural shift to a "self" obsessed culture where there is rampant consumerism, the pursuit of power, excesses, and the abuse of others in the pursuit of these ends. We all need a healthy dose of narcissism, as else we would not back ourselves in life, nor have a healthy sense of self. There are healthy forms of narcissism. Pointing to and ridiculing one's own might well be healthy.The dangers of narcissism are discussed here - http://www.energeticsinstitute.com.au/ page/narcissistic_group_ dynamics.html One problem in recognising religious diversity is the idea that all people are honest about religious motivation and profession.
On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 4:07:16 AM UTC, RP Singh wrote:Neil, why think of God in the usual way, think of him as something before the big bang from which the universe emerged. Think of him as the mind which contained the unmanifest which became manifest as the universe. We know that there is predetermination but why think that he has predetermined, think that it all naturally happens and evolution is a natural predetermined process. Why should God be aware like us, as the source of all he need not be bound by the limits of consciousness and can very well be unconscious. Have faith in such a God and your destiny.On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:19 AM, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:Postmodernism is supposedly a set of critical, strategic and rhetorical practices employing concepts such as difference, repetition, the trace, the simulacrum, and hyperreality to destabilize other concepts such as presence, identity, historical progress, epistemic certainty, and the univocity of meaning.Tony could be seen as replaying the liar's paradox here. To admit to hypocrisy may be to admit the truth. For some postmodern writers, one has to go further than any set of analytic rules and recognise madness at work and restriction of dialogue to safe metaphors like Freud's Oedipal family, when the world of real desire is very different (quite a few writers were gay).Skepticism, over many centuries, has taught a kind of suspension of judgement to a point when one works with many different arguments. Humour can often be the only thing left after rigorous doubting, a kind of self-depreciation in the face of conflicting evidence and themes. Those of us who 'know nothing' still know how to jibe "and even this is to know more than them, those who claim to know everything". This doubting process, in science, comes to at least a temporary end in crucial experiments that anyone, in principle, can demonstrate. This is rarely the case in ordinary living.Descartes had it that we could undergo these difficult skeptical processes with faith in a warm, benevolent god. It would be good to feel such a presence, but I don't. He had the instruments of torture to contend with for that matter. There is a presence of thinking on god without ancient fable, much as there are ways of thinking on economics without the dominating manners of neo-classical fantasy. The admission of perplexity is something of a start, but has something of the vulnerability of sensory deprivation.I am interested in the still mystical point of argument resolution after doubt that is not merely conviction, superiority.or promises so vague they are empty.
On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 9:12:31 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:Of course Allan! My narcissism is baptized in hypocrisy.I espouse to walk in the light and yet there are plenty of "Neighbors" I don't treat better than myself. I claim spiritual superiority and yet find myself in constant need of attitude adjustment. I want world peace but have done little to push that round peg into all of the square holes I have encountered. Maybe only 1 out of three times do I turn the other cheek. And, I am definitely superior to most of the people I meet in this life. My spirit is ill equipped to take on a higher plane of existence.--
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