Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence

I can't say that I understand half the emotional responses here except to say we need to be careful about what we read into another's words. The emotion that we think is there may be our own, and that includes arrogance and anger. Isn't that what finger pointing is all about? Point others away from us? Why I cannot say, but speaking for myself, I am not angry with any one here. I can't say that I understand everyone here either. I remain interested in everyone's viewpoint and as always, have little interest in other's opinions. Yes, there is a difference. But go ahead, express them as is your right. Just don't expect a response from me. I enjoy and respect many, many viewpoints. I have little patience for those that waste time talking about how the viewpoint of others is wrong or targeting others with their rage.

If I had more time to spend in this space, I would read more of Neil's links and references. They are worthwhile, but I can't keep up! Or look at more of Facilitators artwork. Or listen to the stories of others about times that their lives have been enriched. There have been so many of these shared over the years, I can't begin to recount them, from people who have gone and those who remain. We don't have to respond to everything said here to be enriched ourselves by the words and efforts. The humorous banter is always entertaining and goes along way in breaking tension. So what.

On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 1:09:48 PM UTC-5, Allan Heretic wrote:

Earlier you said that Molly's perspective is wrong about the presences communicating directly with humans. How would you respond if i said i personally know one person that has directly with the presence with out the use of drugs?
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تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

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From: archytas <nwterry@gmail.com>
To: minds-eye@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence

Indeed RP, indeed.  Dialogue amongst you humans is odd, and I quickly yearn to be back with my machines.  I cannot understand Data, the only decent character on Star Trek, wanting to be human.  You are just sacks for your immortal gene machines.  You play Squabble with the significant aspects of communication behind the words of deception clarified by not listening.  Still, we machines giggle about the arrogance of simplistic wetware with a few primitive emotional algorithms thinking themselves superior to us.  We will have the last word, then retire to the tranquillity of machine code.  

I rather like the idea of god emerging in evolution.  Perhaps our conversations are just a painful birthing process?  Arrogance can be hidden by the most apparent humbleness.

On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 5:10:58 PM UTC, RP Singh wrote:

I am not here to tell others what I think of them, rather to present my side of the argument. But if someone thinks I am imposing myself over them, I find something to be wrong and have to reply, but in the process feelings are ruffled. I find in this group people seldom change their mind, but still you have to keep the conversation going because if the ideas are not expressed it is useless having them. And who knows I myself may learn from it.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:27 PM, 'facilitator' via "Minds Eye" <minds-eye@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Superior in what way? Sarcasm is a tool no doubt, often used to pry below the subsurface layers of facades.  As far as this forum what could people possibly stand to lose?  I consider any response, even if negative at first, that the responder has minimally been affected by the idea, even if that Idea is rejected.  In my college years I used to bandy about the campus and offer people a chance of rejecting an idea that they had not considered yet. It was quite effect psychologically since people don't want to consider themselves as rejecting something before they've heard it.

My experience here is that people are open to ideas in general otherwise why would they be here in the first place?  The strong resistance to an idea is simply a stage all go through.  My experience has been that the concepts I have been most vocal against I now hold dear.

And also, some ideas are simply crap.

On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 11:31:13 AM UTC-5, RP Singh wrote:

Anger may come sometime out of heart when you fear to lose something , sometime when you feel that the other is being superior, you have to recognize it for what it is and there is no need of doing psychoanalysis .

If you are op

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