Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence

Earlier you said that Molly's perspective is wrong about the presences communicating directly with humans. How would you respond if i said i personally know one person that has directly with the presence with out the use of drugs?
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تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

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From: archytas <nwterry@gmail.com>
To: minds-eye@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence

Indeed RP, indeed.  Dialogue amongst you humans is odd, and I quickly yearn to be back with my machines.  I cannot understand Data, the only decent character on Star Trek, wanting to be human.  You are just sacks for your immortal gene machines.  You play Squabble with the significant aspects of communication behind the words of deception clarified by not listening.  Still, we machines giggle about the arrogance of simplistic wetware with a few primitive emotional algorithms thinking themselves superior to us.  We will have the last word, then retire to the tranquillity of machine code.  

I rather like the idea of god emerging in evolution.  Perhaps our conversations are just a painful birthing process?  Arrogance can be hidden by the most apparent humbleness.

On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 5:10:58 PM UTC, RP Singh wrote:

I am not here to tell others what I think of them, rather to present my side of the argument. But if someone thinks I am imposing myself over them, I find something to be wrong and have to reply, but in the process feelings are ruffled. I find in this group people seldom change their mind, but still you have to keep the conversation going because if the ideas are not expressed it is useless having them. And who knows I myself may learn from it.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:27 PM, 'facilitator' via "Minds Eye" <minds-eye@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Superior in what way? Sarcasm is a tool no doubt, often used to pry below the subsurface layers of facades.  As far as this forum what could people possibly stand to lose?  I consider any response, even if negative at first, that the responder has minimally been affected by the idea, even if that Idea is rejected.  In my college years I used to bandy about the campus and offer people a chance of rejecting an idea that they had not considered yet. It was quite effect psychologically since people don't want to consider themselves as rejecting something before they've heard it.

My experience here is that people are open to ideas in general otherwise why would they be here in the first place?  The strong resistance to an idea is simply a stage all go through.  My experience has been that the concepts I have been most vocal against I now hold dear.

And also, some ideas are simply crap.

On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 11:31:13 AM UTC-5, RP Singh wrote:

Anger may come sometime out of heart when you fear to lose something , sometime when you feel that the other is being superior, you have to recognize it for what it is and there is no need of doing psychoanalysis .

If you are open to ideas you don't close your mind and react when presented with a differnt ideology, it is one thing to disagree and anther to be sarcastic

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:42 PM, 'facilitator' via "Minds Eye" <mind...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Thanks for the elaboration RP.  I too find arrogance disheartening but I would not dip my brush in it to paint others with.  I think most people here might see it as self evident.  I do not know what rock some have been chiseled from.  If I presumed someone to be arrogant at the outset how would they be able then to have input?

Anger in ones heart when responding can be many things and not just "proof of arrogance". Perhaps the perceived anger could be generated by feelings of discomfort associated with a bad experience in the past.  For me, personally, I don't know anyone on this forum well enough to conclude that they are angry or happy when responding.  (I do picture Neil plunging in the lampoon with a smirk.)

In closing you had menti

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