Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence

Thank you Baa Baa Black Sheep.  Indeed, there are those seeking to convert us all.  I would convert you all to my AI moral enhancement, but you are all too lazy to do the hard thinking, realise this would help maintain diversity, bring peace and free us of dominating narcissists.  The snag lies on Allan's poem.

Biological intelligence has a lot of snags it needs help with, notably leadership-followership relations.  We are probably still slaves to something.  I don't have a problem with RP's style, but pointing to the truth as you see it is always likely to be received as hostile.

On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 6:36:17 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:

Herd mentality
Guided by need to control
Manipulating ideas

Twisting needs
Filling masses need
Of belonging

Right or wrong
No longer matters
Only followers 

تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

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From: archytas <nwterry@gmail.com>
To: minds-eye@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence

Well said Tony - though it seems snowflakes are predictably diverse - http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/snowflakes-all-fall-one-35-different-shapes-180953760/?no-ist

Subjective grounding is a tough issue, especially as the herd is nearly always wrong.

On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 5:35:43 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:

I don't know of any group in which people are open to changing their mind. At least not collectively.  By calling out an impugning arrogance is that not telling people what you think of them?  If I were to also state "People in this group seldom change their mind " would I not be setting up a self defeat and therefore it would vindicate my feelings towards them?

I think ideas and ideologies are important even if only you as an individual have them regardless of how they are perceived or expressed or embraced.

All of us are snowflakes, no two alike.  Even those who are blatantly wrong form the banks and valleys to which our river can course through.

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