Re: Mind's Eye Re: Soviet Paradise (USA)

I think you will be and are starting to see smaller new societies.. you have to look at coops and not so much in spirituality but more within established  religions.. mainly  because the have an established moral foundation.  Spirituality  is more personality based. It is possible to guide  a church group and it is where i see societies  future headed. As people are going to need to work together to have a reasonably good life.

تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

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From: Molly <mollyb363@gmail.com>
To: minds-eye@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 12:27 PM
Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Soviet Paradise (USA)

I would like to see a smaller "new" society that has gone right. Haven't seen one yet. I enjoyed Justin's tales (hoping he wasn't a mad man's alter) about the think (or no thought) tank he tried to create centered around spirituality. Fell apart because of personality. It seems even families fall apart without a strong mandate to continue, whether through moral. ethical, traditional or led with honest love ties. Working in cooperation is not easy, the larger the group, the more it gets in the way. A group of people who can look and operate beyond all that is required but hard to come by.

On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 3:18:56 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote:

Primitive societies are much more egalitarian and murderous than ours.  I've never done first contact.  Playing rugby league in PNG was enough for me.  First contact would be a good place for people who protest at the use of words like primitive to understand it is a mistake to leave the AK-M behind.  The idea that there ever was a paradise to regain is likely tosh, though you can imagine we might have had to regress to enter this universe and evolve to current awareness through various stages - and still carry the baggage of the dinosaurs and so on.

People have strange notions about government.  I can make a case that the USA is now the paradigm case of the Soviet Paradise.  It's pretty obvious that none of us get to vote for government, but rather something more akin to union representatives who negotiate with the bankers and crooks who run the show, though the union concerned is a house or sweet-heart one.  Surely, not even Sartre could come up with a play so dull it was about people seeking freedom through voting Clinton, Bush, Cameron, Milliband or Hollande - Sarkoszy!  You nearly had that utter weirdo who ran a bit of Alaska until it turned out she was banged by a black guy when at college.

Would anyone want to deny the US is now a Soviet Paradise?  I still meet a few Europeans who believe they live in a democracy or might if they vote fascist.  The job looks so screwed to me that I think we should start again.  You'd think this would be pretty straight-forward if we lived in an open and democratic society.

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