Mind's Eye Re: modern cynicism

I agree your last line Vam and that technology as a saviour is beyond believing.  Earth is doomed in scientific scripture though.  The sun will go red giant, there will be a collision with Andromeda and global climate changes will continue naturally with whatever we can do to shape these, though the arguments are not about the carbon dioxide clamour of the media.  For me, society is cynical in the worst sense - ignorant, grasping and selfish.  A modern cynic might start recognising a different Timespace to the old Greeks, pushing both further back to more eastern originality and including more spiritually critical science.  All individual-subjective quests lead to a problem as we come back to group and population levels, not least those of gross greed and material selfishness as you say.  Well-being needs none of the crapification, yet I still want something that socialises beyond the idiot leadership we have had to date.

Models we use across science now do allow some complex system thinking that works in ways the old dogs could not deny as specious intellectualism now.  We have almost the precise opposite of nurseries of needed renunciation in the western propaganda mess of advertising and superiority (now hidden in bureaucratic political correctness).  Cynicism could change as a result of changing its starting conditions.

On Monday, 18 March 2019 19:24:13 UTC, Vam wrote:

"...we know the earth is finitely doomed."

I am not so sure. And I find such speculations irrelevant to alround well being, starting with my own, in my lifetime.

It is also beyond me to rely on technology, as some kind of a saviour. I would still put my hope on man, who would use technology, not to save the earth or humanity, but to make certain solutions and services possible.

A society without nurseries to inculcate renunciation, of gross greed and material selfishness, is doomed to end up where we are today.

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